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Yes definitely get the updated CCW with 10 min sleep.

The AR type takes another win.

Yeah thought it was ridiculous to permanently alter the pistol for an optic. There's plenty of brands that offer the correct RMSc footprint.

Yes or do like some do and go wild with a Dremel.

Does it move it out forward more to not interfere with getting a full grip?

Once a light is attached in that one Mlok slot there's gonna be no room left for hand. Unless you wrap your hand around the light also.

That's just a laser right? A light would be mandatory for HD.

It does me, I have plenty.

That's not gonna give more hand space or more Mlok slots to attach a weapon light.

Dang this really disappoints me. If it would've had a 7.5" to a 10.5" barrel it would've been a done deal today.

Hmm while I applaud SA for this, it is a bit stubby. Would've liked it to have about a 8-8.5" barrel for more handguard space to allow for a full hand and a weapon light.

Yeah that would bother me also. Upgrade.

Ewww, yeah then I wouldn't be pleased either.

Both Finland and Sweden are also going to the AR pattern.

I'm liking it 👍

All these optics manufacturers don't follow a sizing standard. Some have gaps, some don't.

A short by TFB

I went with the Vortex Defender CCW.

He did say a civilian version was coming to the U.S.

They mentioned it coming in as a pistol and braced version.