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Cop Needs 17 Center Mass Hits w/ .40 S&W to Stop Assailant
A police officer needed 22 rounds of .40 caliber S&W to bring down an armed attacker during a gunfight. Seventeen hit the perp in center mass.
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Keystone19250
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There has got to be more to that story.
I say this jokingly:
Did the cop really need 17 rounds or was this just a trigger happy moment that the cop used the excuse of needing 17 rounds to stop the threat?
There's always a chance of the one off instance that someone is seemingly bulletproof. I've even seen examples where people were shot through the head with different caliber rounds and lived. This could have just been a case of unlucky shot placement.
A shot to the spine or brain is the only thing guaranteed to stop someone instantly.
Did the cop really need 17 rounds or was this just a trigger happy moment that the cop used the excuse of needing 17 rounds to stop the threat?
There's always a chance of the one off instance that someone is seemingly bulletproof. I've even seen examples where people were shot through the head with different caliber rounds and lived. This could have just been a case of unlucky shot placement.
A shot to the spine or brain is the only thing guaranteed to stop someone instantly.
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I was hit multiple times by AK47 7.62x 39 not one round of the 4 rounds hit bone or vital organs another 5 rounds hit my equipment and gear in my rucksack & butt pack and I am alive 48 years after and I returned to duty 90 days after the incident. The guys around me were no so lucky nor were the enemy soldiers that fired on us. But if it were a center mass hit I would not be here I think of that day every day and count myself lucky I was not one of the 58,404 .
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The full story (as linked in the article above), is linked below. After the re-telling of events, there's an excellent synopsis/overview of each of the officers actions and whether they were right, wrong, and actions that could have been done differently.
www.lawofficer.com
Officer Down: The Peter Soulis Incident
Officer Peter Soulis was monitoring traffic from a service station parking lot when he spotted a Toyota pull onto the
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Great link, I was trying to find a body cam vid and got distracted. Squirrels......The full story (as linked in the article above), is linked below. After the re-telling of events, there's an excellent synopsis/overview of each of the officers actions and whether they were right, wrong, and actions that could have been done differently.
Officer Down: The Peter Soulis Incident
Officer Peter Soulis was monitoring traffic from a service station parking lot when he spotted a Toyota pull onto the
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Not sure if it the same one, but its interesting
Seems the perp has a different name
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HansGruber
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I tend not to get too excited by events like this, or let it influence what I choose to carry.
Itās an outlier, waaaaaay on the right side of the bell curve of defensive incidentsāeven LE involved defensive incidents.
Yes, shifting to āfailure drillā mode is a helpful skill, but...the head is a small, highly mobile, naturally armored target...a high percentage shot may not present itself, while a good ācenter massā shots do...so, you take the best shot you're given.
Itās an outlier, waaaaaay on the right side of the bell curve of defensive incidentsāeven LE involved defensive incidents.
Yes, shifting to āfailure drillā mode is a helpful skill, but...the head is a small, highly mobile, naturally armored target...a high percentage shot may not present itself, while a good ācenter massā shots do...so, you take the best shot you're given.
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DittoWell spoken mister Gruber I like your thinking on the subject!
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Agreed, I think stories like this are important to point out that caliber is not the only thing that matters.
Here's another example
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Incredible. Totally incredible.
Thank you for posting that.
Thank you for posting that.
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I would think that facts in this story are a bit askew. One thing for sure, the ammo that was used by the officer meets the FBI standards for penetration. So the story says the officer shot rounds through his windshield at the suspect but it doesn't say how many rounds through the windshield was fired. That plays a role in bullet performance. Plus based on the bullet performance of that round, it meets the standards as many other 9mm and 45ACP rounds would. Leading me to believe the .40 round wouldn't make a difference if another round would have been used. So, that would leave me to believe the suspect was on an illegal substance, an or no vitals were hit in the qouted center mass shots. The attached article by a person that actually sees bullet wounds regularly supports the fact that the .40 was not the issue. Take a read.
www.policemag.com
A Trauma Surgeon Talks About Wound Ballistics and Stopping Power
"I got involved in wound ballistics and what it really took to stop a threat during residency in Philadelphia because I had a friend on the police force who lost his job for use of excessive force by shooting somebody, I think it was, 18 times, and I always thought, maybe he needed to shoot that...
www.policemag.com
Keystone19250
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Very good article and great information on handgun versus rifle rounds.I would think that facts in this story are a bit askew. One thing for sure, the ammo that was used by the officer meets the FBI standards for penetration. So the story says the officer shot rounds through his windshield at the suspect but it doesn't say how many rounds through the windshield was fired. That plays a role in bullet performance. Plus based on the bullet performance of that round, it meets the standards as many other 9mm and 45ACP rounds would. Leading me to believe the .40 round wouldn't make a difference if another round would have been used. So, that would leave me to believe the suspect was on an illegal substance, an or no vitals were hit in the qouted center mass shots. The attached article by a person that actually sees bullet wounds regularly supports the fact that the .40 was not the issue. Take a read.
A Trauma Surgeon Talks About Wound Ballistics and Stopping Power
"I got involved in wound ballistics and what it really took to stop a threat during residency in Philadelphia because I had a friend on the police force who lost his job for use of excessive force by shooting somebody, I think it was, 18 times, and I always thought, maybe he needed to shoot that...
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Roy is a good example!
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