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Vought F-8 Crusader: Last of the Gunfighters
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Talyn
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Dabbs forgot to mention a few things.
The F-8 Crusader has a sleek fuselage that's also very long (as per the profile pics) in comparison to its wingspan. While the higher angle of attack of the wing helped provide more lift for take-off and landing it was also necessary to address the long fuselage length.
The angle of attack refers to the wing, not the fuselage. The reason the wing was raised was to level the fuselage at approach speed so the tailpipe wouldn’t hit the deck when the F-8 landed. Having the fuselage as level as possible makes landing much better.
Also, accident rates were high for all aircraft of that era due to the early tech.
This sentence... The wingtips also folded for storage aboard ship. should have been the lead-in for the paragraph below the John Glenn picture.
The Mk 12 20mm cannon were prone to jamming during high-G maneuvers.
The Brits figured out how to better land the F4U than the US since they used the F4 U on carriers earlier, and the Corsair had to make some changes to it's landing gear. And if was so difficult to land why was the F4U regularly operated on very small escort carrier during Korea.
And with the same the F8 Crusader was operated more, and lastly, on the small improved Essex-Class carriers.
And the designers of the F-8 did not design it to rectify issues with the F4U Corsair. Two different designs.
Some additional information on the French operating the F8 Crusader would have fleshed out the article better.
My .02
The F-8 Crusader has a sleek fuselage that's also very long (as per the profile pics) in comparison to its wingspan. While the higher angle of attack of the wing helped provide more lift for take-off and landing it was also necessary to address the long fuselage length.
The angle of attack refers to the wing, not the fuselage. The reason the wing was raised was to level the fuselage at approach speed so the tailpipe wouldn’t hit the deck when the F-8 landed. Having the fuselage as level as possible makes landing much better.
Also, accident rates were high for all aircraft of that era due to the early tech.
This sentence... The wingtips also folded for storage aboard ship. should have been the lead-in for the paragraph below the John Glenn picture.
The Mk 12 20mm cannon were prone to jamming during high-G maneuvers.
The Brits figured out how to better land the F4U than the US since they used the F4 U on carriers earlier, and the Corsair had to make some changes to it's landing gear. And if was so difficult to land why was the F4U regularly operated on very small escort carrier during Korea.
And with the same the F8 Crusader was operated more, and lastly, on the small improved Essex-Class carriers.
And the designers of the F-8 did not design it to rectify issues with the F4U Corsair. Two different designs.
Some additional information on the French operating the F8 Crusader would have fleshed out the article better.
My .02
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And the Philippine Air Force.
Talyn
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The French F-8 was a different/new model, the F-8E(FN), based on the F-8E with substantial modifications, & the Philippines F-8s were left over USN/USMC F-8Hs which were remanufactured F-8Ds.
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The Last Gunfighter
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Vought F-8E (FN) Crusader French Navy Marine Nationale
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Vought F-8 Crusader - Wikipedia
This Was the Last Gunfighting Crusader of the Air
Vought’s F-8 Crusader successfully bridged the gap between the days of close-quarters dogfighting and the supersonic era of long-range missile
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Talyn
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The story of the F-8 Crusader "wings folded" flight
www.flightjournal.com
BTW - It happened to an F-4 Phantom too.
And an Israeli F-15 flew with half of its wing.
nationalinterest.org
theaviationgeekclub.com
www.sandboxx.us
en.wikipedia.org
F8 Wings Folded - Flight Journal
Aviation History | History of Flight | Aviation History Articles, Warbirds, Bombers, Trainers, Pilots | F8 Wings Folded
www.flightjournal.com
BTW - It happened to an F-4 Phantom too.
And an Israeli F-15 flew with half of its wing.
This F-15 Was so Hard to Kill That It Flew—and Survived—With Only 1 Wing
Despite entering service nearly a half-century ago, the McDonnell Douglas F-15 Eagle remains one of the most potent and capable air superiority fighters on the planet.
nationalinterest.org
The Israeli Air Force F-15 that landed with One Wing Missing
Israeli Air Force Fighter Pilot tells the story of when he was able to land his F-15 Baz with One Wing Missing
theaviationgeekclub.com
The full story of the F-15 pilot who landed with one wing
Believe it or not, the legendary F-15 Eagle once landed with only one wing after a mid-flight collision tore the other one off.
www.sandboxx.us
1983 Negev mid-air collision - Wikipedia
Talyn
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An Examination of the F-8 Crusader through Archival Sources
Talyn
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The F-8 was subject of my fourth book, written when Photo Crusaders remained in the fleet. The community had stratospheric morale partly based on a perverse pride in the accident rate. There was sort of a rivalry between Crusaders and RA-5 Vigilantes for the worst safety record among carrier aircraft though both performed their missions splendidly. Among the "Dogfights" episodes I was in (roughly half of them in the two-year run) the F-8 segment remains my favorite because it focused attention on the Navy's "other fighter" with excellent descriptions by the four aviators I recommended. Dick "Brown Bear" Schaffert provided a detailed account of his classic 1-v-4 with MiG-17s plus a "drive by" courtesy of two MiG-21s.Hello all, here is today's article posted on TheArmoryLife.com. It is titled “Vought F-8 Crusader: Last of the Gunfighters” and can be found at https://www.thearmorylife.com/vought-f-8-crusader/.
Talyn
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What's the books' name.?
Thanks for the inquiry. I'm late returning to the party!
"MiG Master" from Naval Institute Press.
It'll come up if you search for my name and "F-8 Crusader" online.
Talyn
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Must be the 1980/1990 book, & I have had it for awhile.
Didn't know if something new on the aircraft was available.
BIG fan of your books.
Anything new coming out?
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