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Long Range Shooting with Iron Sights
- Thread starter Mike H.
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TEXASforLIFE
SAINT
The background and lighting condition my apply?You've got some good eyesight for an old guy.
HansGruber
Ronin
I volunteered to work when a range I used to be a member of had Palma matches.
1000yds, iron sights. Pretty cool.
1000yds, iron sights. Pretty cool.
Dammmnnn, I bet it was!
Sidewinder88
Alpha
Although I'd really like to be a proud owner of one of these fine rifles, it is unfortunately priced far out of my range these day's. My health too a huge hit in 2015 that left me disabled, I had to sell my Tikka made by Sako, in 300 Winchester mag, topped with a Burris 3x9x40, it preferred Winchester silver tip and soft tip powerpoints 180 grain and 200 grain, I had Micky moused at 1000 yards twice out of two times target shooting with it(I used it for deer hunting)out of 25 year's owning that rifle I only missed 1 deer, on a dead ass run right at me! Adrenaline was in overdrive!
Anyways (tears) I've never fired one of these but my father did while he served. I always wanted to shoot one, and when I saw Springfield had one I really wanted to shoot one! I've been a Springfield fan since I bought a 9mm XDM full size, insanely accurate! But unfortunately for me I'll never be able to afford any new toy's. So I love to watch these videos y'all share and read your articles. Thanks for great products, and for actively writing and making vids!
Anyways (tears) I've never fired one of these but my father did while he served. I always wanted to shoot one, and when I saw Springfield had one I really wanted to shoot one! I've been a Springfield fan since I bought a 9mm XDM full size, insanely accurate! But unfortunately for me I'll never be able to afford any new toy's. So I love to watch these videos y'all share and read your articles. Thanks for great products, and for actively writing and making vids!
I shot Highpower for many years, first with an M1A in Service Rifle class, then with an AR in Match Rifle class. Both with irons, although a lot more sophisticated irons were on the Match Rifle.
The full National Match course is 200-600 yards, standing, sitting, and prone, but there were several matches at reduced 200 or 100 yards. Plus other matches like Long Range where you only shoot the longest distance and in prone.
I never shot over 600 until more recent years when I shot F Class.
I took a 10-15 year break and didn’t shoot any Highpower until maybe ten years ago. Now I only shoot a couple of Mid-Range (300-600) and Long-Range (800-1000) F-Class matches per year.
F Class is all prone, with a front rest and rear bag. The scoring rings are half the size in F-Class, although the number of black ones works out to the same diameter.
But in F Class, I can use all the optic I want. I use a 5-25X Kahles, and probably use the least magnification of anyone.
Iron Sight shooters and F-Class shoot side by side at the same match. F guys just get a different target face.
There is quite a difference between regular HP and F-Class.
There is however one big similarity. The wind is still the frustrating part for all of us. That is where the real skill comes in, and I never had much of it.
FYI: The 800, 900, and 1000 yard target is six feet across. When I used a .308 for 1000, my chosen load (Berger 185 grain at 2610 fps) would drift 71” at 1000 in only 10mph of wind.
The full National Match course is 200-600 yards, standing, sitting, and prone, but there were several matches at reduced 200 or 100 yards. Plus other matches like Long Range where you only shoot the longest distance and in prone.
I never shot over 600 until more recent years when I shot F Class.
I took a 10-15 year break and didn’t shoot any Highpower until maybe ten years ago. Now I only shoot a couple of Mid-Range (300-600) and Long-Range (800-1000) F-Class matches per year.
F Class is all prone, with a front rest and rear bag. The scoring rings are half the size in F-Class, although the number of black ones works out to the same diameter.
But in F Class, I can use all the optic I want. I use a 5-25X Kahles, and probably use the least magnification of anyone.
Iron Sight shooters and F-Class shoot side by side at the same match. F guys just get a different target face.
There is quite a difference between regular HP and F-Class.
There is however one big similarity. The wind is still the frustrating part for all of us. That is where the real skill comes in, and I never had much of it.
FYI: The 800, 900, and 1000 yard target is six feet across. When I used a .308 for 1000, my chosen load (Berger 185 grain at 2610 fps) would drift 71” at 1000 in only 10mph of wind.
KillerFord1977
SAINT
I said it before a couple times.
My father in Marine Corp boot camp shot expert in basic with the M1 Garand in 1958. I dont remember all the distance he stated, but he has lots of paperwork i have read in his military files for it. Hit 99 of 100. His lowest score ever was 96/100. Drill instructors were flabbergasted. His DI was so proud, dad states he walked around, , “I taught him”
He told me his technique was always squeeze the trigger on the down stroke when the sight picture came on target. Never try to hold still. Just let natural recoil set up the next shot as you come down . That man can still roll me with a rifle
Dad was open sight squirrel hunting as a small kid.
He’s 84 now and still has 20/10 vision for distance.
My father in Marine Corp boot camp shot expert in basic with the M1 Garand in 1958. I dont remember all the distance he stated, but he has lots of paperwork i have read in his military files for it. Hit 99 of 100. His lowest score ever was 96/100. Drill instructors were flabbergasted. His DI was so proud, dad states he walked around, , “I taught him”
He told me his technique was always squeeze the trigger on the down stroke when the sight picture came on target. Never try to hold still. Just let natural recoil set up the next shot as you come down . That man can still roll me with a rifle
Dad was open sight squirrel hunting as a small kid.
He’s 84 now and still has 20/10 vision for distance.
Ok thanks for the clarification. I feel a little better, the metals targets I can hit (not always) at 400-500 yds are about 12 inches or less across. Maybe there is hope for me yet.
Bassbob
Emissary
That's just how I shoot the big magnum handguns. And quite accurately too if I do say so.I said it before a couple times.
My father in Marine Corp boot camp shot expert in basic with the M1 Garand in 1958. I dont remember all the distance he stated, but he has lots of paperwork i have read in his military files for it. Hit 99 of 100. His lowest score ever was 96/100. Drill instructors were flabbergasted. His DI was so proud, dad states he walked around, , “I taught him”
He told me his technique was always squeeze the trigger on the down stroke when the sight picture came on target. Never try to hold still. Just let natural recoil set up the next shot as you come down . That man can still roll me with a rifle
Dad was open sight squirrel hunting as a small kid.
He’s 84 now and still has 20/10 vision for distance.
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last2brake
Elite
Hey, hey!!! She can buy it for me…poor little me, who really could use one…please!