Sld1959
Ronin
But truly that's nothing when most governments take that long to admit there is an issue much less start thinking about what to do.
72 hours is better than nothing
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Arthur Shelby
Elite
The EU only has to advise this because it's talking to Europeans. Many of them rely on shopping daily. Most Americans already buy two weeks worth of food and a month worth of other supplies on a shopping trip.
Sld1959
Ronin
Yep i know, my daughter had fallen into that habit she had encountered during her year in Ireland college. Then Covid and the shutdown happened. They live down near Detroit and I had to make several "illegal" runs there with supplies rhst were impossible to find there but were not bad here.
She finally said that she finally understood our pantry system and it's purpose. Even though we had explained it many times. She does considerably better now. She even accepted my longstsnding offer of a couple firearms and training in them for her and husband.
OldGrunt
Custom
My son lived in Amsterdam for 4 years while going to college there. My master bedroom is bigger than the small apartment he lived in while going to school. It had a tiny refrigerator and a two-burner stove with no oven. He didn't have enough room to store much. He would have to go to the local market every couple of days.
Arthur Shelby
Elite
Even living in Connacht I knew a lady who would walk two hours into town every other day. She only bought what she could carry home.
Warrior9(Ret)
Master Class
Here we go……again! I’ve got a funny feeling I’ve seen this picture before 
The Night Rider
Professional
It's not so bad now but I remember a time when I would come home from work and I would walk down the hallway of my apartment building and literally every door up and down the hallway except for mine had doordash in front of it.
My next door neighbor literally used to doordash every meal. I have no idea if he had any real food in his apartment.
Last spring Colorado had massive blizzards. People up in Teller County were snowed in for weeks. I mean the roads were under four or five feet of snow. And they were interviewing people on TV and one guy literally said "We live in the mountains. Nobody stores enough food to last a week up here." I'd be willing to bed at the interviewed him because his neighbor probably had three months worth of canned goods in the pantry and didn't want to talk to the news.
My wife faced economic hardship as a child. Three meals a day wasn't guaranteed. As a result she keeps food in this house.
When we move to the Goat Ranch we are going to be 40 miles from the nearest grocery store. We have a pantry system now but it's going to step up a notch when we get there.
My next door neighbor literally used to doordash every meal. I have no idea if he had any real food in his apartment.
Last spring Colorado had massive blizzards. People up in Teller County were snowed in for weeks. I mean the roads were under four or five feet of snow. And they were interviewing people on TV and one guy literally said "We live in the mountains. Nobody stores enough food to last a week up here." I'd be willing to bed at the interviewed him because his neighbor probably had three months worth of canned goods in the pantry and didn't want to talk to the news.
My wife faced economic hardship as a child. Three meals a day wasn't guaranteed. As a result she keeps food in this house.
When we move to the Goat Ranch we are going to be 40 miles from the nearest grocery store. We have a pantry system now but it's going to step up a notch when we get there.
OldGrunt
Custom
I would say that you could modify or add to that list. But on another post some snowflakes chastised me for being prepared for the field when others stupidly did not prepare. I certainly have been very charitable to others in need, but not to stupid people. I would say my wife and I are prepared better than most, but I can see a need for my wife and I to try harder on being prepared. What is it they say about being prepared? It's never enough?
Arthur Shelby
Elite
I wonder if Gen Z will be a generation of prepared people now that they've seen how things can go south...
The Night Rider
Professional
No joke right in the middle of the great toilet paper panic I went to take the trash out one day and there was a case each of toilet paper and paper towels sitting out in front of the dumpster in our apartment. It wasn't the best there was to get but it worked.
We weren't really hurting anyway because we buy our stuff by the case from Sam's.
We have stopped buying toilet paper because the Goat Ranch is on a septic system and we can't use the normal stuff
Bassbob
Emissary
It's that way all over Europe. All the preservative crap like MSG is illegal there. So there is no point in a big fridge. The only food you can stockpile is dry goods.
I was in Amsterdam twice. A few weeks each time. We never found fresh milk anywhere.
Bassbob
Emissary
In Amsterdam most of the buildings are 2 story or more and have very narrow stairwells. To facilitate getting furniture in the rooms they have big windows on the second floor and the gable juts out from the house a few feet and has a block and tackle attached to the center beam. There's also a years long waiting list to get a place in Amsterdam. And subletting is illegal ( although it is common). The city sends someone around once a month to check the flue on the heatilators and if you aren't the actual resident you have to pretend to be. The dude we stayed with's actual legal residence was in Utrecht, but he lived in the Newkirke neighborhood of Amsterdam.
can't speak to some cities but in Paris, those "elevators" are the size of dog cages - takes quite a bit of human juggling to load just three people, and in the middle of the night, now that was a challenge. The French like to save energy (for whom exactly?) and so the halls are not lit - I needed a flashlight just to get us around and into those damn elevators. Cramped just doesn't quite say it.
OldGrunt
Custom
Well, my son has been back from Amsterdam almost a year and a half now. In the 4 years he was there, he said nobody ever came around his place asking anything. Now he lived in a more modern apartment, and there certainly wasn't any type of anything outside his second-floor windows to help with moving anything in. He had to do the hard thing and ask friends to help him carry furniture up a couple of flights of stairs! lol
Bassbob
Emissary
Some of the houses in Amsterdam are 800 years old.