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A Glimpse into a Subculture of Violence

Sld1959 said:
I worry for my grand children and the world thry will inherit.
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Grayfox said:
That world is already here. Life has no value anymore. Every day you hear about people killing each other over the most minor and stupidest of reasons. :(
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Hate to say it, but that culture and those persons have always been around particularly in the cities.
You just see and hear about it more due to technology.
Go back last 100 yrs, and there has always been steady violence and full prisons.
 
The murder here was gratuitous but unfortunately almost commonplace.
What should be eye opening is the snapshot of how the subcultural value and attitude of violence is passed down through generations. I am confident that the young man here had no positive male role model in his life and that violence was his mother's default response to any conflict with others while he was growing up.

Fortulately most of the violence is intracultural but like any predator they can bite anyone. Use caution and stay heeled, my friends, they are out there..
 
It's obvious that this pattern of antisocial behaviors, attitudes, aggression, and a lack of empathy for others is now at an industial strenght level in our country. Makes you wonder how many of those people standing in the check-out line at the grocery store are in fact sociopaths?
 
I was part of this program in my kids elementary schools. It was a district wide program.

Volunteer at school to take those kids that may be “at risk” in school for attitude, grades, social behavior and work with them as a “parent role model” during school hours with positive feedback and culture.

There are a lot of kids that have bad homes.

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This Is An Extremely Long Post.

This is a video by Tom Givens discussing the cultural attitudes of this subculture.



William Aprill also talks about it



I'm not going to get into details but I lived right on the edge of that world for about 10 years. Some of my ex-extended family, most of whom are either dead or spending the rest of their life in prison lived in that world.

It's a matter of record that my ex son-in-law who is going to be spending the rest of his life in prison in Texas was arrested for the largest methamphetamine bust (At that time) in El Paso County history.

His whole side of the family was and those who are still alive probably still are career criminals. It's what they did for a living.

I'm not a psychologist I can't get into the whole thing I don't understand that mindset but they didn't even look at you as prey. They looked at people outside the family as a grocery store.

You don't have any moral debate in your mind about going to the grocery store and buying a loaf of bread. It's there, you need it, you want it, you go get it and you don't think twice about it. It doesn't bother your conscience at all. That's the way these people see you.

I don't have any direct first-hand knowledge of what I'm about to say except for some of it's a matter of public record.

When my ex-SIL was arrested he was told to keep his mouth shut take the plea bargain and go to prison. In return his wife and kids would be taken care of while he was incarcerated.

I know he took a plea deal and was sentenced to 7-11 years in a federal penitentiary. He did 8 and went back layer after multiple parole violations

I know that 6 months after he went to jail our daughter and her children except for her oldest vanished from the face of the Earth.

The rumor that we heard later was that the family suspected that the daughter was going to turn State's Evidence on all of them.( if you need clarification, supposedly they intended to kill her to keep her mouth shut) She took the kids and vanished into Mexico for 8 years. I know for a fact that when she finally turned back up none of her children could speak English and she speaks Spanish well enough that her first real job was as in Spanish/English interpreter.

Anyway.

When she took off she left her oldest son with us. I don't know the whole story but the part of it that I understand was that he wanted to remain in his father's life and he was going to do whatever it took to do that. So she left him with the only people that she could trust to look after him and keep him in contact with his father... My wife and I.

So all of that was the lead up to in order to keep him in contact with his father I had to take him to the prison a couple of times a month to see Dad and around dad's family once or twice a year for family events.

We were not part of the family (thank God) so family business wasn't discussed in front of us but we would go over there and sit there at the barbecue and they would talk about how Tito(made up name) just took a plea deal and he's going to be in prison for 9 years. And they said it the way that we would say "There was a Slowdown at the plant last week and Bob got laid off". It wasn't a big deal. It wasn't a family tragedy. It was just a normal part of life that happened.

Going to prison was not a deterrent to these people any more than getting a speeding ticket is really a deterrent to most of us. It was just a part of their life.

I mean there's more that I could say but what I'm really trying to get at is the mindset that they displayed. Like I said jail was no big deal everybody went to jail. When we took the grandson over there we were the odd people because we hadn't been to jail.

And since we weren't family we were also part of the victim selection pool. Nothing really big but they tried to rip us off a couple of times.

I worked for a carpet cleaning company and I showed up at one of their houses once just by coincidence and he tried to con me into cleaning the whole house and paying me for two rooms.

It was minor but it was proof that I wasn't one of them. I was another loaf of bread in the grocery store.

While dad was in prison his son who lived with us had to go to therapy. His therapist laid out certain parameters that had to be abided by and he was actually starting to show Improvement.

When Dad got out of prison he absolutely refused to continue therapy or abide by the therapist's recommendations or do anything in the visitation protocols.

We ended up suing for custody. I have no direct knowledge that my son-in-law ever actually murdered anybody but he was suspected of murdering at least three people while incarcerated.

After we served him the papers I never left my house unarmed. The whole thing ended up with the State awarding custody without any investigation to the father.

The grandson moved in with him and we haven't seen him in pretty close to 15 years. The last we heard dad is doing life in Texas and the Son is either in jail on parole or has a warrant out for his arrest and wants nothing to do with us.

So I said all that to say this again you are not a human being with human rights to these people. You are a walking supply dump.

The best way that I can say it is something that Kathy Jackson(Cornered Cat) said.

You are like yge candy wrapper on a candy bar to these people. They want the candy bar and they will rip the wrapper off and throw it away to get to it and they'll never give that wrapper another thought.

They can be completely aware that you're not happy being robbed, they can be completely aware that you're not happy being beat up or raped or burglarized. They can completely understand that and not give a damn.

Some of you that are police officers know exactly what I'm talking about period some of you have been victims of violent crime no exactly what I'm talking about.

Those of you who haven't, take our word for it because it's real.
 
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The cycle of get mad & get even will not end. This message is found in popular social media, music and movies, glorified by the culture and from what is being taught and not taught in schools. An example is found in the text message exchange. The court will need an expert to translate that in terms that can be deemed criminal intent.

On the bright side for the defendants, at least the case is in AL because if it were in Fulton Co GA there would be several more defendants and piled on charges of Attempt, Conspiracy and Solicitation.

HomeDepot and the contracted hiring vendor will also be on the hook for some substantial civil liability penalties. Which is another problem that fundamentally transformed™️ society for the worse.
 
Well I’m not gonna say a whole lot about it other than to say the percentage of people who place no value on life and have very little regard for whether or not they go to prison is dramatically higher in democratically controlled, urban areas. And a very small demographic is responsible for the vast majority of it, while another, larger demographic accepts it and even makes excuses for it, going as far as blaming innocent people for it.
 
Bassbob said:
Well I’m not gonna say a whole lot about it other than to say the percentage of people who place no value on life and have very little regard for whether or not they go to prison is dramatically higher in democratically controlled, urban areas. And a very small demographic is responsible for the vast majority of it, while another, larger demographic accepts it and even makes excuses for it, going as far as blaming innocent people for it.
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Amen!
 
Bassbob said:
Well I’m not gonna say a whole lot about it other than to say the percentage of people who place no value on life and have very little regard for whether or not they go to prison is dramatically higher in democratically controlled, urban areas. And a very small demographic is responsible for the vast majority of it, while another, larger demographic accepts it and even makes excuses for it, going as far as blaming innocent people for it.
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Recusant said:
Amen!
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This 👍👍
 
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