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An act of kindness goes terribly bad for armed man.

Recusant said:
The phrase 'No good deed goes unpunished' certainly applies here. The frequency in which acts of kindness backfire on those who offer them seems to be on the rise.

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Whether it was a “no good dead goes unpunished” scenario or poor situational awareness truly a tragedy.
It’s hard to admit that growing up I was always the “one” to stop and help those in need however as society has changed I find myself driving by and making the call to authorities instead of stopping.
 
Historically, highway robbery has been a problem since ancient times, and apparently it still is. Old-Me made a good point about other bodies. With the huge numbers of homeless people wandering around the country I suspect instances like this is more common than we think. Folks go missing all the time and are never found. One has to wonder if the missing fell victim to a similar ruse. Makes you wonder who can you trust?
 
Does make you wonder these days,years ago you would see someone in trouble and if you could stop and help,nowadays with crime through the roof people getting more desperate for money and seemingly fearless of police and retribution,it seems not worth the risk to stop
 
These days just about everyone has a cellphone, including poor, homeless and “off-gridding” isolationists which limited service is totally free or subsidized by rate reduction.

Part of the helpful boomer generation still exists, young people now are being taught the “acceptance” science, not necessarily for the good of man but principle of privilege, and of course this new approach throws out commonsense.

As a motorcyclist there’s a common bond amongst us. We generally stop and help…but that’s a group run and mostly it’s a ‘ran out of gas’ problem or electrical, maybe help with a push start. Not much you can do otherwise, maybe do a gas run, maybe some funds for a tow, but again most have cellphones for that, some just unprepared with dead phones.

As a city slicker, I’m well aware of hand wavers especially at expressway on/off ramps with the car hood up, same people every day. These are panhandlers at minimum, professional beggars. Sign holders, squeegee pirates and general panhandling homeless often can become belligerent.

Unfortunately even an honest, well thought assessment of the situation puts everyone at some potential risk to scams or harm. Most people will call a relative, friend, or police for help.

Won’t stop anymore. Long way to go and a short time to get there…🎶
 
Area52 said:
These days just about everyone has a cellphone, including poor, homeless and “off-gridding” isolationists which limited service is totally free or subsidized by rate reduction.

Part of the helpful boomer generation still exists, young people now are being taught the “acceptance” science, not necessarily for the good of man but principle of privilege, and of course this new approach throws out commonsense.

As a motorcyclist there’s a common bond amongst us. We generally stop and help…but that’s a group run and mostly it’s a ‘ran out of gas’ problem or electrical, maybe help with a push start. Not much you can do otherwise, maybe do a gas run, maybe some funds for a tow, but again most have cellphones for that, some just unprepared with dead phones.

As a city slicker, I’m well aware of hand wavers especially at expressway on/off ramps with the car hood up, same people every day. These are panhandlers at minimum, professional beggars. Sign holders, squeegee pirates and general panhandling homeless often can become belligerent.

Unfortunately even an honest, well thought assessment of the situation puts everyone at some potential risk to scams or harm. Most people will call a relative, friend, or police for help.

Won’t stop anymore. Long way to go and a short time to get there…🎶
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i learned long ago, as a trucker, to NEVER STOP to help anyone, cuz it can be a "set up" for a hijacking.

in my earlier years, i hauled trailer loads of cigarettes, and liquor and spirits from Kentucky.

and my route back would be the I-95 corridor.....

i still would stop for food, fuel, rest, but i wasn't supposed to.

then i said to my company, "well i ain't gonna wear diapers, and put an intravenous line into me, so you had better believe i'm gonna stop, for the food, fuel, and rest"

never any issues, cuz i never stopped to help anyone.
 
Old_Me said:
and my route back would be the I-95 corridor.....
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Old_Me, I bet you know where this is and have stopped off there on your trips.

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A grumpy old truck driver's perspective.

Nearly everyone today can get help if they need. Cell phones are quite nearly universal, and service usually is available.

I don't carry the tools and diagnostic equipment to help you fix your car along the roadside. If you don't understand that a coolant leak can be a major problem and hit the road with one, don't be surprised when you overheat. If you can't change a tire, either learn how or be prepared to call someone who can. If you are stupid enough to travel without enough money for gas or food, you need to reassess your priorities.

Yes, that's a rotten attitude to have. I confess that I have become jaded through the years, but I have seen too many freeloaders wanting to live off the kindhearted and magnanimous of society. People like the one mentioned in this story only affirm the world view of this truck driver.
 
"Simjee then pulled his concealed handgun and wounded Hider "multiple times" before he too was shot and then died at the scene, the sheriff said." Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like he had much practice or training with his handgun. People think that just by buying the firearm, getting your concealed carry, and going to the range once or twice to hit paper is enough to prepare you for this situation. My heart goes out to his family for the loss of their son. Just owning the gun and firing it a few times isn't enough. You need to prepare yourself mentally for this. And, you need to understand that if you are forced to use it, the one you are using it against usually doesn't have as much to lose as you do. Now, granted, we don't know the whole story or how everything unfolded, so I could be way off base. But, if this is how it happened, then this is a tragic example of not being prepared in a life and death situation. Practice, practice, practice. Training, training, training. As it has been stated "A gun is not some magic talisman." It does not magically protect you. It is a tool. And if you don't know how to use that tool properly, it could cost you your life. However, the most important lesson from all of this: Situational Awareness and Common Sense. It sucks that we have to do a risk assessment of helping out another human being in need.
 
The Night Rider said:
Nah, but after my wife and my daughter the list gets pretty thin.
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I have a wife and daughter too. And a mother, father and sister. None of them would knowingly do me harm. When something absolutely has to get done, I do it. I was with my first wife for 13 years. Then she "fell in love" with some truck driver. A woman I grew up with since I was 2 years old and was closer to than my own sister hasn't talked to me in 3 years. Over politics and her drunkenness. Her actual brother, who I was best friends with since we were 2 years old was banging my first wife behind my back. All this was a long time ago, but it changed my brain permanently. So who in this world DO I trust ? Me.
 
Bassbob said:
I have a wife and daughter too. And a mother, father and sister. None of them would knowingly do me harm. When something absolutely has to get done, I do it. I was with my first wife for 13 years. Then she "fell in love" with some truck driver. A woman I grew up with since I was 2 years old and was closer to than my own sister hasn't talked to me in 3 years. Over politics and her drunkenness. Her actual brother, who I was best friends with since we were 2 years old was banging my first wife behind my back. All this was a long time ago, but it changed my brain permanently. So who in this world DO I trust ? Me.
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I'm sorry that's been your experience.

Ultimately my trust is in God. If I'm willing to put my eternity (and the eternity of my family) in His hands I'd be a fool not to trust Him with the things of this life.

Everything else in my life flows from that relationship.

I trust my wife because my experience has taught me that she is trustworthy I trust her judgment because I know she has more common sense than I do.

Our daughter is an adult with children of her own.

She is the COO of a private school. She spends her entire day solving problems. That is in her nature and that is who she is.

That's relevant to this discussion because we actually have to be careful not to tell her our problems because if we did she'd try to solve them.

Just as an example the last time she was over here she noticed that the windshield on our car was cracked. Without saying anything to my wife she called a local windshield repair company made an appointment and paid for the new windshield. Then she told my wife what she had done.

That's her belief system. Family before anything else.

Again, that trust was gained by experience.

So again, I trust my wife I trust my daughter and I trust my cat.

We are US. Everything one else is THEM.
 
I believe the assumption that everyone has a cellphone has changed the way people, including law enforcement interacts with stranded motorists. A year or two ago my engine blew a soft plug on a rural road.

I did have a cell phone and called for help. However it took about an hour to get a tow truck. During that time, about two in the afternoon, a lot of cars passed and three Sheriff patrol cars passed without even slowing down enough to ask if I needed assistance.

Made me think a lot, given if it was my 89 yo father before he passed he would have been walking for help as he seldom took a cell phone with him. And in my experience there are more elders who leave home without a cell phone than one might think. My wife worked at the council on aging and told how many she came across. She even got us new phones to pass on our old ones thru thier cell phone for a senior plan at work. The list of possible recipients, was long.

Sad we have deteriorated to that point.
 
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