As Kenosha and Minneapolis Burn, Millions of Americans Buy Guns
- Thread starter Talyn
- Start date
Keystone19250
SAINT
Working on the truck last week I was talking to a neighbor, retired (LMPD)
In so many words the department is in turmoil. Basically the mobs rule. Shootings and murders are escalating and response time for almost every call is 50-75% longer than what it was just 6 months ago. His take is it’s going to get worse before it gets better. People are arming themselves to protect themselves.
In so many words the department is in turmoil. Basically the mobs rule. Shootings and murders are escalating and response time for almost every call is 50-75% longer than what it was just 6 months ago. His take is it’s going to get worse before it gets better. People are arming themselves to protect themselves.
jumpinjoe
Hellcat
According to the article, .... “there were over 12 million guns bought in the first seven months of 2020—up more than 70 percent over the same time span in 2019. This number is likely to include nearly 5 million first-time gun owners (emphasis is mine) so far this year.”....... Let's hope those 5 million first-time gun owners recognize that results of this coming general election in November will likely determine whether or not they will be able to keep those 5 million new firearms. The current administration protects and defends the 2nd amendment for all of us ..... a new administration will likely take it from us, or at the very least severely restrict our free exercise of it, one way or another.
Now there's something really worth pondering on!
Now there's something really worth pondering on!
Peglegjoe
Professional
I just hope we can all manage to do more than simply throw our firearms at criminals. Ammo production has got to catch up. Somehow. I know, it has to start in the basement - ore mining, metals production, powder production. But...I hope it starts soon or we'll have "gun control" but from a completely different angle.
krunchnik
Master Class
Ammo shortages are a weird kinda thing-I know the last time when King Caesar of Obamaba Land was our overlord ammo shortages were somewhat normal-I have never let myself get low on defense type ammo and then some.
I worked at a local range where shooter's would come in and shoot up hundreds of rounds and then complain that they couldn't restock-never understanding the practice of rationing themselves.
I worked at a local range where shooter's would come in and shoot up hundreds of rounds and then complain that they couldn't restock-never understanding the practice of rationing themselves.
wmg1299
Professional
I'm happy to welcome new owners to the fold, but I would've preferred for manufacturers to have been more prepared. I have talked to a few new shooters who purchased their particular gun because it was one of the only models available. I worry that a decent number of these shooters have purchased something that may not have been the best fit, and now can't find enough ammo to become proficient. The local Academy is out of almost all handguns other than the original S&W Shield .40 S&W and the XDs Mod.2 45 acp. The Shield is a fine gun, and I love my XDS 45. However, I don't think that either of these are the best choice for an inexperienced shooter. I feel that these people would have been better served, and would be more likely to enjoy the shooting experience, if they could have started with a larger 9mm with 500-1000 rounds of training ammo. I hope they end up loving shooting, but I worry that starting with these handguns (or a .357 J-Frame) may serve to reaffirm people's misconception that guns are loud, scary, and difficult to control. Maybe it will all work out and I am just being pessimistic.
Bassbob
Emissary
Here lately anyway the availability of guns has somewhat normalized. There are a few that are still really, REALLY hard to get, but there is a lot available too currently. Prices seem a little elevated, but nowhere near the scale of ammunition prices.
Being the kind of guys we are, I , like everyone else, have been stocking up on the ammo I shoot for a very long time. My problem is I ran into a chunk of expendable income right after the pandemic hit ( no, not my stimulant check). I used the opportunity to buy weapons when I probably should have been buying ammo. Or ideally when I first got the inkling that I was going to be buying a few weapons in calibers I didn't already own I should have started buying ammo. As a result I find myself way too short on 5.56 and 9mm for my liking. Which is a shame since the weapons I bought in those calibers make excellent SHTF weapons.
Oh well, I have other excellent SHTF weapons and plenty of ammo for those. Let's just hope the bad orange man wins in November and prices start returning to normal. It would be nice to get a case of 9mm and 1000 rounds of 5.56 without having to take out a mortgage.
Being the kind of guys we are, I , like everyone else, have been stocking up on the ammo I shoot for a very long time. My problem is I ran into a chunk of expendable income right after the pandemic hit ( no, not my stimulant check). I used the opportunity to buy weapons when I probably should have been buying ammo. Or ideally when I first got the inkling that I was going to be buying a few weapons in calibers I didn't already own I should have started buying ammo. As a result I find myself way too short on 5.56 and 9mm for my liking. Which is a shame since the weapons I bought in those calibers make excellent SHTF weapons.
Oh well, I have other excellent SHTF weapons and plenty of ammo for those. Let's just hope the bad orange man wins in November and prices start returning to normal. It would be nice to get a case of 9mm and 1000 rounds of 5.56 without having to take out a mortgage.
In the last couple of months I have seen bulk 9mm ammo WHEN AVAILABLE go from $147 > $249 > $319 > $359 and finally $599. I still find some boxes for $30 for 50 but that is rare and high. I have alerts out from my favorite distributors. The bitch is it is difficult to practice when you know you can not replenish. My new CZ TSO has only seen 500 rounds.