Annihilator
Emissary
An Official Journal Of The NRA | BATFE Releases New Form 4473
The new BATFE Form 4473 includes a number of notable changes and will be required for use starting in November 2020.
BATF Releases New Form 4473
- Thread starter Annihilator
- Start date
TEXASforLIFE
SAINT
It seems like they are trying to get us not too buy guns at an inconvenience of paperwork and catch us in a lie? For those who fill it out and not make any mistakes for a misunderstanding of phrasing!
I read the linked post twice, and unless I missed something, it seems like they've just moved the different sections (A, B, etc) location on the form around.
"...In those regions where carry permit holders are not required to undergo another NICS check, a 4473 still needs to a completed."
In regards to the above paragraph, Kentucky [currently] doesn't require CCDW carriers to go through a background check. However...where I usually get my ammo locally across town, I asked the store clerk once that I had my CCDW permit, and if I were to buy a firearm there would I need to go through the background check. He said they didn't recognize KY permits, even the store is in KY, because their home office is located in Illinois, and they go by the home office regs.
When I bought my recent firearm, I went to the Army base PX. It's a 45 mile drive one way, but I like the tax savings, and they have a decent selection of ammo on-hand. Anyway, when I went to purchase the pistol, I mentioned to the sales clerk that I had my KY CCDW, and could skip the background check. Nope. Still had to do it, but it seemed to go much quicker.
"...In those regions where carry permit holders are not required to undergo another NICS check, a 4473 still needs to a completed."
In regards to the above paragraph, Kentucky [currently] doesn't require CCDW carriers to go through a background check. However...where I usually get my ammo locally across town, I asked the store clerk once that I had my CCDW permit, and if I were to buy a firearm there would I need to go through the background check. He said they didn't recognize KY permits, even the store is in KY, because their home office is located in Illinois, and they go by the home office regs.
When I bought my recent firearm, I went to the Army base PX. It's a 45 mile drive one way, but I like the tax savings, and they have a decent selection of ammo on-hand. Anyway, when I went to purchase the pistol, I mentioned to the sales clerk that I had my KY CCDW, and could skip the background check. Nope. Still had to do it, but it seemed to go much quicker.
Annihilator
Emissary
Here in Ohio, if you have your CCW, you don’t have to do background check but still have to do your 4473.
In Massachusetts you are required to get the state license and also fill out the 4473. They will do anything to roadblock someone owning a gun. Also to get the state license you need to arrange an interview with the local PD and on top of that Massachusetts is a may issue state which means they can and have refused an LTC to anyone they want without even a reason.
I’ve heard argument against this that go something like “moving the purchased firearm to the front page with the ID info makes it easier for agents to copy paperwork and therefore create a registry of sorts.” Frankly, if the ATF wants the info, illegal or otherwise, having to copy two pages and staple them together isn’t gonna stop them or even slow them down.