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Can an optic be direct mounted to XDm elite to co witness with standard height sight

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Is there an optic that can co witness without suppressor height sights? I would also like to know if there is a setup that avoids using a plate? I forgot to be specific. OSP version.
 
Short answer no. In fact I don't think there is a pistol out there that will co witness with normal size sights. Sure add suppressor sights and you can get it. The Plates are required for most pistols to adapt the footprint and screw placement to the pistol. Then add in pistol style electronic dots, the electronics are in the bottom of the body which pushes the window up higher requiring tall sights.

I think the only exception is the leupold Delta Point micro that hangs off the back of the pistol slide, but even then you replace the rear sight.
 
Even with slide cuts to match the optic, there isn't enough material cut to get it low enough as @xdman states. If the electronics were on the sides of the optic, then it could be low enough. The only problem then is where the heck is the battery going?
 
xdman said:
Short answer no. In fact I don't think there is a pistol out there that will co witness with normal size sights. Sure add suppressor sights and you can get it. The Plates are required for most pistols to adapt the footprint and screw placement to the pistol. Then add in pistol style electronic dots, the electronics are in the bottom of the body which pushes the window up higher requiring tall sights.

I think the only exception is the leupold Delta Point micro that hangs off the back of the pistol slide, but even then you replace the rear sight.
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I just bought a Shadow Systems DR920. It comes with a proprietary optic cut that will take almost any red dot and sits low enough that it co-witnesses with the stock sights. I currently have a Sig Romeo1Pro installed on it.
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TEXASforLIFE said:
Even with slide cuts to match the optic, there isn't enough material cut to get it low enough as @xdman states. If the electronics were on the sides of the optic, then it could be low enough. The only problem then is where the heck is the battery going?
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Ok so the next day thinking about it and seeing Simons gun, we need to differentiate on “co-witness“ and what type of co-witness. When I answered I am talking about full co-witness, not A 1/3. So on my XDME it is absolute the red dot matches what the iron sights are seeing. My opinion here……and I know this is controversial but a lower 1/3 is not co witness. If you have two different sight pictures……they are not co witnessed. So like on my Hellcat Pro it is also Absolute with short factory sights with the Wasp RD. Both my XDME and Hellcat I have the red dot like the picture all the way to the right the only difference is the XDME has tall sights. One sight picture and if I move off axis the red dot is still the impact.


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