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Can You Make a Sub-1-Second Shot?

Jester560 said:
A week ago today at a defensive pistol match, with my 3 in Ronin EMP, I did 1.37 second, from cover, 3 rounds at 3 yards 0 points down. First shot was at .98 seconds.
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What’s your average points down on a Bakersfield Qual?

Or score in a 5 yard round up?

Cold on a consistent basis?!
 
ECS686 said:
What’s your average points down on a Bakersfield Qual?

Or score in a 5 yard round up?

Cold on a consistent basis?!
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Not sure that I've ever shot a Bakersfield. The roundup I have but has been a while ago and I don't remember. I will shoot both at my next range visit and let you know for sure.
 
Jester560 said:
Not sure that I've ever shot a Bakersfield. The roundup I have but has been a while ago and I don't remember. I will shoot both at my next range visit and let you know for sure.
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We all have had a sub second draw and shot at a few points. My experience is it’s not a realistic goal on the application side. But how about laying on your back after you get knocked to the ground with the wind knocked out of you? Probably isn’t gonna be that quick then.

On the competition side or where you know you are going to engage sure it’s doable but how many can consistently do it on the first presentation cold more times than not. Not a lot. 1.5-2 is more realistic when from cover.

As far as application in an encounter rarely do you go on verbal cues it’s all visual and you have that decision loop. (Criminals don’t warn you they are gonna F you up before hand)

Like the Casino Drill, Bakersfield and assessment drills from Justin Dyal as long as you are under your par time AND accuracy is within the passing your good and should probably go on to something else!

So that said I’m not saying don’t practice just don’t get wrapped around the axel about it. Get to where you are proficient on a consistent basis and try and improve on other areas.
 
ECS686 said:
We all have had a sub second draw and shot at a few points. My experience is it’s not a realistic goal on the application side. But how about laying on your back after you get knocked to the ground with the wind knocked out of you? Probably isn’t gonna be that quick then.

On the competition side or where you know you are going to engage sure it’s doable but how many can consistently do it on the first presentation cold more times than not. Not a lot. 1.5-2 is more realistic when from cover.

As far as application in an encounter rarely do you go on verbal cues it’s all visual and you have that decision loop. (Criminals don’t warn you they are gonna F you up before hand)

Like the Casino Drill, Bakersfield and assessment drills from Justin Dyal as long as you are under your par time AND accuracy is within the passing your good and should probably go on to something else!

So that said I’m not saying don’t practice just don’t get wrapped around the axel about it. Get to where you are proficient on a consistent basis and try and improve on other areas.
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Doing it in practice is like sighting in a rifle from a bench. It doesn't really matter out in the wild but.... doing your absolute best under controlled conditions makes the uncontrolled conditions easier to control.
 
No. I used to from a retention holster and duty gear, concealment no way. Maybe, if my 638 was in my vest pocket, hand on the gun, and willing to put a hole in my Carhart vest. After 10 years I just got the darn thing comfortable, so it doesn't were like a 1/4" sheet of plywood. ;) I'm more interested in a smooth, consistent grip, and a reasonable quick draw than lightning fast. For those that can and accomplish the rest(y)(y)(y)
 
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