Fluid Transfer Monolithic Bullets: Next Gen Defensive Cartridge?

[Annihilator]

Is this the new thing or just a gimmick, need more information before I give up my regular self defense ammo

Fluid Transfer Monolithic Bullets: Next Gen Defensive Cartridge? -

Hollow point bullets are the most common and familiar defensive projectile. However, monolithic bullets may just change that.

gunmagwarehouse.com

 

[Belt Fed]

When i seen the title Fluid Transfer i thought maybe i done clicked on the wrong site

 

[HansGruber]

Snake oil.

 

[mikep]

When i seen the title Fluid Transfer i thought maybe i done clicked on the wrong site

Again? The wrong site, again? C’mon man!

 

[Old_Me]

i don't know...the "new" ammo makes the hole bigger, but unlike a hollow point, it can exit the body and hit someone else..???

to me, this just amounts to a FMJ for self defense rather than a hollow point.

nah, i ain't into having anyone else be injured, i'll refrain from this new bullet.

then too, it states it makes the hole bigger...then for christ sakes, carry a 45.

 

[Old_Me]

Again? The wrong site, again? C’mon man!

well............i tend to surf the web........it kinda did sound kinky

 

[mikep]

well............i tend to surf the web........it kinda did sound kinky

I expected that of you. I would have been disappointed otherwise.

 

[Old_Me]

I expected that of you. I would have been disappointed otherwise.

 

[Mr.W.]

These are nothing new. I imagine the monolithic designed projectiles have some useful purpose (?), but they will never replace HST for my choice of carry ammunition.

 

[trader]

I do utilize the underwoods presented here, but, as others have pointed out, we'll have to wait and see after several shootings to determine effectiveness. There are so many factors in "stopping power, effectiveness etc". I like that the projectile manufacturers are trying to improve things but I remain cautiously skeptical.

 

[papa]

I think the extreme defender might be a good choice for the .380 out of very short barrels. Even a .32 might see a bump in protection ability.

Anything else and I am sticking with the Federal HSTs.

 

[trader]

which is why I have alternated them in any mag with the usual JHPs +P of whatever caliber. JIC. What did catch my interest to start with for these cross- nosed type rounds is their ability to punch through auto glass - the tests and videos, from more than one manufacturer do make a case for their inclusion.

 

[rcurtner]

I too would like to see info on actual shootings. I carry Underwood 100 grain 38 special+P rounds in my j-frame. Their website claims 1300 FPS but doesn't say what barrel length fired from. I use HST's in 9mm & 45 ACP and feel very comfortable with them.

 

[Bassbob]

When I read fluid transfer I thought maybe a bullet laced with pork soda for fighting jihadists. OR maybe a bullet made out of ice ( which could be handy).

 

[Cedric]

The wound plot says the underwood produced a sifnificantly wider wound channel than the Hornady. Sorry, I'm seeing the opposite.

 

[trader]

Always great discussions on wound channels, ballistics, energy, speed, bullet shape/type and so on. Let's face it though, pistols are not the best at ending life quickly. A modern rifle is best for that but - the problem with them is size and weight etc. So we make do with a choice and hope for the best....

 

[Bassbob]

The wound plot says the underwood produced a sifnificantly wider wound channel than the Hornady. Sorry, I'm seeing the opposite.

Permanent wound cavity. And the pic in the article does show it significantly wider.

 

[KillerFord1977]

Always great discussions on wound channels, ballistics, energy, speed, bullet shape/type and so on. Let's face it though, pistols are not the best at ending life quickly. A modern rifle is best for that but - the problem with them is size and weight etc. So we make do with a choice and hope for the best....

I disagree. A modern rifle is no better than a pistol. Rifle just offers range.
Thousands, actually tens of thousands have been shot with a modern rifle in war and survive.

 

[Grayfox]

A solid copper bullet at high speed sounds like a shoot through just waiting to happen.

Thousands, actually tens of thousands have been shot with a modern rifle in war and survive.

Actually, in war, a wounded enemy soldier is better than a dead one. He's out of the fight, at least one and possibly two other soldiers will have to care for and evac him, so they're out of the fight, and he will still use up food, water, and medical supplies. All due to mandated FMJ ammo.

 

[FNFAN]

I disagree. A modern rifle is no better than a pistol. Rifle just offers range.
Thousands, actually tens of thousands have been shot with a modern rifle in war and survive.

Keep in mind there's a huge difference between the military fmj and modern expanding rifle rounds. Once you get into the velocity realms of 2000-2200fps you have more hydrostatic effects causing a larger permanent wound channel and that is compounded when you have controlled expansion HP and Soft Tip ammo going at 2500-2800 fps.