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Gun Laws: "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly!"

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2A is the only way! Cali seems too be at the top of the list when it comes too the subject! Across the east isn't much better, especially in the Dem controlled states. Thus far it's great to be in TEXAS! Whether it be one side or the other in politics here gun control or the lack there of is a plus for us in the Lone Star state! Give some insight on the state you live in for those in this forum that don't know how GOOD, BAD or the UGLY is where you reside!
 
Secure right now in Arizona. My county will vote next week on making it a 2nd amendment sanctuary. However, Arizona is being over run with illegal aliens that register to vote. Also California is flooding us with their overtaxed liberals. Our future is grim.
 
Ohio here, no issues yet, but some counties are starting up 2nd amendment sanctuary status just in case, these days, you just don’t know.

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Things have been oddly quiet here in Michigan. Our new Lefty governor isn’t saying a whole lot yet. We have a couple representatives spouting off. One in particular who won’t make a second term. 2A groups are trying to stay ahead of the game. No mag limits, red flag laws or scary black rifle laws.
 
Annihilator said:
Ohio here, no issues yet, but some counties are starting up 2nd amendment sanctuary status just in case, these days, you just don’t know.
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Yup, Ohio's weird like that - I'm here, too.

The cities are definitely strongly biased blue, but even so, I find that there's nevertheless an undercurrent of appreciation for what the 2A protects. It almost always surprises me when, in training classes, I meet others from the bluer counties that encompass major-metro.

We're always one election away.

We're always one generation away.

We have to instill in our children the idea of individual freedom and accountability, to protect our American values.
 
Here in South Carolina the Capitol City Columbia passed the Red Flag, 80%, and no Scary Black Guns or gigantic mags.
The Attorney General has filed a law suit and is pushing it to go to the SC Supreme Court. We'll see how that goes. Could be a litmus test for all.
 
SMSgtRod said:
Here in South Carolina the Capitol City Columbia passed the Red Flag, 80%, and no Scary Black Guns or gigantic mags.
The Attorney General has filed a law suit and is pushing it to go to the SC Supreme Court. We'll see how that goes. Could be a litmus test for all.
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What's next, unemployment across the state!
 
SMSgtRod said:
Here in South Carolina the Capitol City Columbia passed the Red Flag, 80%, and no Scary Black Guns or gigantic mags.
The Attorney General has filed a law suit and is pushing it to go to the SC Supreme Court. We'll see how that goes. Could be a litmus test for all.
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Does the state still outlaw garbage disposals, not trash disposals places?
 
Maryland here.

Don't ask.

It is *possible* to get CCW...but you need a "good and substantial reason". May-issue state. No disclosure required during traffic stops. CCW either open or concealed, no difference in the eyes of the law. 1 gun per 30 days, application fee, purchase fee, registration fee. "No Firearms" signs do not have force of law when on private businesses, but force of law does apply to state buildings, large gatherings/stadiums, etc. Red flag laws in place. R governor...but close enough to DC and NoVa to be chock-full of "sanctuary" locales (see: Montgomery County).
 
Peglegjoe said:
Maryland here.

Don't ask.

It is *possible* to get CCW...but you need a "good and substantial reason". May-issue state. No disclosure required during traffic stops. CCW either open or concealed, no difference in the eyes of the law. 1 gun per 30 days, application fee, purchase fee, registration fee. "No Firearms" signs do not have force of law when on private businesses, but force of law does apply to state buildings, large gatherings/stadiums, etc. Red flag laws in place. R governor...but close enough to DC and NoVa to be chock-full of "sanctuary" locales (see: Montgomery County).
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If you have a HCL in Texas you are required too show your permit along with your dl, but without the permit you don't have too disclose that you have a firearm in the vehicle with you. It can't be in the open though.
 
MA here. Well, where to start. In a nutshell, R Governor letting D Attorney General run amok with anti gun, in my humble opinion or course. Permits are issued by individual police chief of town you reside. If chief is anti gun, you are out of luck. May issue with or without restriction as they see fit. Luckily have a great chief in my town. Anything over 10 round mag is banned. "assault" rifles can no longer be purchased. Everyone that currently owns one is "safe for now". (That was an actual quote.) All guns are registered. Red flag laws. Must carry concealed if permit allows. (even though that is not written, it is understood) Must be on person/in direct control, otherwise locked in container in trunk. Must be stored in safe of have some sort of approved trigger lock in house. No online ammo sales, (Well, technically yes, but the laws are so convoluted, no one will ship to state. ) Cant have ammo "components" unless you are licensed. Guns have to be "tested" (consumer protection law) and modified to AG's specs and be on the official roster before they can be sold. Only manufacturer that said no was Glock. Guess what? No Glock sales through dealers unless you are PD or is manufactured before Oct. 21, 1998 (private sales OK) I could write a book, but no need. It's all there under MA law. Trying to put through many more because they don't enforce the ones they already have. Good luck trying to decipher it all without a Cap'n Crunch decoder ring.

Looking at some of the post within the forum, I feel left out. There is no way a lot of those things would be allowed here :(
 
Yeah, that's one I forgot for MD. The "approved handgun roster" - the state has to review a firearm before they "allow" it to be sold here.

No Hellcats for me, yet.

Also, 10rd limits on paper. Not sure how that would apply to a Hellcat, but I do know that many handguns are sold with factory capacities that exceed 10rds.

LEOs are a little more understanding than the state review board - my "good and substantial" reason is, small business owner (live audio production company; I do concerts). MD rule for the "reason" can be: cash deposits; real estate situations (I also own rentals); and judgement calls by the MSP. At the time of my application process, the three most popular targets were schools, churches, and nightclubs. Soon as I said "concert sound", they looked at me and asked "clubs and bars?". That locked it.

State law is carry "while engaged in the activity of your job, which requires the firearm". No other times, only supposed to carry when engaged in work.

The back of my permit is worded "any business on-site or off, pertaining to" my company. That includes networking, meetings, bank runs, client interviews, etc. I specifically asked that question when my permit was issued, because I don't need to get in trouble for "illegal carrying" here in the Republik of Maryland.

Advice I've been given? "Sound company, eh? Keep a broken speaker in your car." Similar to the advice-meme I've seen that says "if you carry a bat in your car, make sure you also have a glove - your lawyer will thank you!".

And in Maryland, you ARE allowed to carry in an establishment that serves alcohol, as long as you do not partake.
 
Here in Illinois , we have to first get a FOID card ( firearms owners ID ) with a picture on it . This takes the state about 60 business days to get mailed to you after they check you out. Then we can go buy ammo by showing the card. No card , no ammo. When we want to buy a firearm we have to show the card then they call the id number in and a background check is performed again. After a full 3 days of waiting ( cooling off period they call it ) we can then go get our new firearm.

To get a FCCL ( firearms concealed carry license ) we have to first have the FOID card . Then we have to have 16 hrs of training at a nominal cost of $200.00 wich also includes firing 10 rounds at 5 yards , 10 rnds at 7 yrds , and 10 rnds at 10 yards. We can only submit an application online and the fee is $150.00 . If the state decides you shouldn't have an FCCL you don't get a refund of the $150 .00. The license is good for 5 years and then you have to take a renewal course of 3 hrs along with the shooting qualifying and pay another full $150.00 for another 5 yrs.

No carry allowed signs do have force of law behind them.
 
papa said:
Here in Illinois , we have to first get a FOID card ( firearms owners ID ) with a picture on it . This takes the state about 60 business days to get mailed to you after they check you out. Then we can go buy ammo by showing the card. No card , no ammo. When we want to buy a firearm we have to show the card then they call the id number in and a background check is performed again. After a full 3 days of waiting ( cooling off period they call it ) we can then go get our new firearm.

To get a FCCL ( firearms concealed carry license ) we have to first have the FOID card . Then we have to have 16 hrs of training at a nominal cost of $200.00 wich also includes firing 10 rounds at 5 yards , 10 rnds at 7 yrds , and 10 rnds at 10 yards. We can only submit an application online and the fee is $150.00 . If the state decides you shouldn't have an FCCL you don't get a refund of the $150 .00. The license is good for 5 years and then you have to take a renewal course of 3 hrs along with the shooting qualifying and pay another full $150.00 for another 5 yrs.

No carry allowed signs do have force of law behind them.
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Wow, those "rules" seem over the top, and yet, IMO, with all of those regulations and stipulations in-place, it doesn't seem to have hindered the daily shootings that we hear about occurring in Chicago on a continual basis. The over-the-top rules seem more like they're primarily there as an revenue gathering process.
 
ScottJ said:
Wow, those "rules" seem over the top, and yet, IMO, with all of those regulations and stipulations in-place, it doesn't seem to have hindered the daily shootings that we hear about occurring in Chicago on a continual basis. The over-the-top rules seem more like they're primarily there as an revenue gathering process.
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Those over the top rules only apply to us good guys.
The shootings in Chicago is mostly gang members with stolen firearms and kim fox the prosecutor picks and chooses who stays in jail.
Most criminal are on the street before LE enters the reports, like jussie smollett.
 
Wirenut said:
Those over the top rules only apply to us good guys.
The shootings in Chicago is mostly gang members with stolen firearms and kim fox the prosecutor picks and chooses who stays in jail.
Most criminal are on the street before LE enters the reports, like jussie smollett.
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This is very true. They come after us law abiding gun owners with a vengince bt let out the thugs , many time without bond.
 
Wirenut said:
Those over the top rules only apply to us good guys.
The shootings in Chicago is mostly gang members with stolen firearms and kim fox the prosecutor picks and chooses who stays in jail.
Most criminal are on the street before LE enters the reports, like jussie smollett.
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Good point.
 
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