NotToYield
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Has Springfield Armory considered building a new, updated version of the .30 Carbine? I would love to have one with newer features!
Has Springfield considered building.30 Carbine?
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Grayfox
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I'm with you on that. Wouldn't mind having one myself.
But I'm afraid we're in the minority. I just don't think there's enough interest to make it worth while. I have do doubt that such a rifle would cost at least 1K. Why buy that when you can get an AR for half that much? Then add in the cost of ammo.
There have been a couple of companies that tried to copy it in the past. But they proved to be unreliable and died off.
IIRC back in the early days of SA, they did buy some surplus receivers and did indeed build some M1 Carbines. But those are few and far between. Can someone confirm this?
If you want a M1 Carbine about all you can do is bite the bullet and shell out the bucks.
But I'm afraid we're in the minority. I just don't think there's enough interest to make it worth while. I have do doubt that such a rifle would cost at least 1K. Why buy that when you can get an AR for half that much? Then add in the cost of ammo.
There have been a couple of companies that tried to copy it in the past. But they proved to be unreliable and died off.
IIRC back in the early days of SA, they did buy some surplus receivers and did indeed build some M1 Carbines. But those are few and far between. Can someone confirm this?
If you want a M1 Carbine about all you can do is bite the bullet and shell out the bucks.
NotToYield
Alpha
Thanks for your reply to my first post here. I’m still figuring out how to use this forum so responders may not see my responses to you, but know that I appreciate them and the likes I have.
You have some good points and probably have the right of it. But I like to think there may be a new market now for the .30 carbine. In the last several decades the gun industry has acquired several vast expansions in formerly small sections of the buyer categories - as with the ladies, blacks and even political opponents. This has occurred alongside of huge increases in the interest and understanding of the needs and desires to obtain better protection and safety within the current political surroundings, within more criminals being released with little or no punishment, more riots and more violence within the frequent “protests” (read: NOT legal First Amendment operations).
With all the above going on, I have also noticed a number of new versions of historical guns (for example the SA30, M16A2, the newer renditions of lever-actions, etc.). Plus the constant and instant information attainability provided by the Internet that was not available several decades ago to gun enthusiasts opens more and more markets. I am hopeful that such an environment opens up possibilities to “feed” the desires of the classic guns admired by many more customers nowadays and the results of a capitalistic market will lower prices for such carbines, rifles, pistols and ammunition.
Thanks to all for reading. As I said, I have to figure how this site works LOL!!
Additionally I am extremely busy with life and may not find time to participate often here, but it is not that I don’t want to!
I will try to not be so wordy in the future for your comfort level ;-)
You have some good points and probably have the right of it. But I like to think there may be a new market now for the .30 carbine. In the last several decades the gun industry has acquired several vast expansions in formerly small sections of the buyer categories - as with the ladies, blacks and even political opponents. This has occurred alongside of huge increases in the interest and understanding of the needs and desires to obtain better protection and safety within the current political surroundings, within more criminals being released with little or no punishment, more riots and more violence within the frequent “protests” (read: NOT legal First Amendment operations).
With all the above going on, I have also noticed a number of new versions of historical guns (for example the SA30, M16A2, the newer renditions of lever-actions, etc.). Plus the constant and instant information attainability provided by the Internet that was not available several decades ago to gun enthusiasts opens more and more markets. I am hopeful that such an environment opens up possibilities to “feed” the desires of the classic guns admired by many more customers nowadays and the results of a capitalistic market will lower prices for such carbines, rifles, pistols and ammunition.
Thanks to all for reading. As I said, I have to figure how this site works LOL!!
Additionally I am extremely busy with life and may not find time to participate often here, but it is not that I don’t want to!
I will try to not be so wordy in the future for your comfort level ;-)
Bassbob
Emissary
Talyn
SAINT
There are currently three manufacturers of M1 carbine replicas.
www.auto-ordnance.com
shopkahrfirearmsgroup.com
Inland's are likely the most period correct.
Gunbroker is likely the best place to go to see what's available & their prices.
Bonus
Carbine drill
www.americanrifleman.org
Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine - Auto-Ordnance | Original manufacturer of the world famous "Tommy Gun"
OVERVIEW: AUTO-ORDNANCE M1 CARBINE OVERVIEW: AUTO-ORDNANCE M1 CARBINE The Auto-Ordnance M1 .30 Caliber carbine is produced in Kahr’s state-of-the-art manufacturing plant in Greeley, PA. All Auto-Ordnance carbines are produced using newly manufactured parts on high precision computerized...
www.auto-ordnance.com
Firearms - Auto Ordnance - Long Guns - M1 Carbine - Kahr Firearms Group
Inland's are likely the most period correct.
Gunbroker is likely the best place to go to see what's available & their prices.
Bonus
Carbine drill
An Official Journal Of The NRA | 3.0 Carbine Drill: Practical Exercise For The M1 Carbine
With only 10 rounds needed to complete the drill, practicing it can save much time and money while honing the skills necessary to be a competent close-range defender with any carbine or large-format pistol, not just the M1.
NotToYield
Alpha
Thanks!
Talyn
SAINT
Springfield Armory M1 Carbine - The Armory Life
What we know today as Springfield Armory actually first began in 1963 as Reese Surplus in Colona, Illinois, by the patriarch Robert Reese. Robert’s sons Dennis, David and Thomas subsequently helped to build this family business to the rarefied heights you see represented in American gun emporia...
www.thearmorylife.com
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Grayfox
Professional
Interesting article. I remembered that SA had built some Carbines, but forgot the details.
I also remember the Blue Sky imports. Unfortunately Blue Sky became known for stamping their import marks on the barrel too hard and ruining accuracy.
As for the current reproductions, for those prices you can buy an original.
I do own two U.S. M1 Carbines. A Standard Products and an Inland that I got from CMP a few years ago when they got some. Great little rifles. I actually prefer them to an AR.
I also remember the Blue Sky imports. Unfortunately Blue Sky became known for stamping their import marks on the barrel too hard and ruining accuracy.
As for the current reproductions, for those prices you can buy an original.
I do own two U.S. M1 Carbines. A Standard Products and an Inland that I got from CMP a few years ago when they got some. Great little rifles. I actually prefer them to an AR.