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Jfal
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NY Post reports he used a Smith & Wesson M&P 15 rifle, and that the Sub2000 was in his possession when he was apprehended later that day. The rifle used in the actual shooting was left on the rooftop, or nearby, it has been reported.
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This is the gun that Robert Crimo III considered using in second mass shooting
Photo shows the semi-automatic rifle Robert Crimo III still had after his slaughter at the Highland Park parade — one he considered using for a second Fourth of July mass shooting.
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Annihilator
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No matter what the rifle/caliber was, this administration will still say a AR-15, the weapon of war, even before any details were know, they started with this and the assault weapons ban, they didn’t even know if it was a rifle but still came out preaching this….ok done ranting
The Night Rider
Professional
Yes They Do.
Don't ever make that mistake.
These people are not stupid. They do know how guns work and if they don't they can afford to hire the best researchers in the world to tell them.
They are repeatedly caught lying and faking news stories like the "full semi automatic AR15". And they don't care. They're engaging in a deliberate propaganda campaign to convince the uneducated that all guns and all citizen Firearms ownership is evil
Recusant
Hellcat
Talyn
SAINT
Some do & some don't know the differences between firearms.
The Night Rider
Professional
Back when Wayne LaPierre actually gave a damn about the Second Amendment.You mean like this:
The Night Rider
Professional
That's what they have researchers for. If they were honestly and objectively Reporting the facts they would look into them.
It is a DELIBERATE attempt to disperse false information. If you haven't figured it out yet the left wants you disarmed
Recusant
Hellcat
It's part of the Big Lie campaign. Snowflakes think if it's on CNN it must be true.
The Night Rider
Professional
Is there a functional difference?Rifle used in parade shooting was an M&P 15. I love how the media stated AR like
Talyn
SAINT
I had all that figured out along time ago Bud.
My local news folks are dumber than a 2X4.
So chill out with the personal crap.
Pitdogg2
Professional
Not at all.
Jfal
Professional
The M&P15 IS an AR-15.
There was lots of speculation and confusion about the Sub2000 found in the perp's car and the M&P15 used in the shootings. The Sub2000 is NOT an AR-15, nor is it an AR-15 like weapon.
The Night Rider
Professional
I had no intention of making any personal insult and I Didn't. I made no pejorative statement directed at you at all.
jumpinjoe
Hellcat
I first heard he had a Remington 700, a semi-auto rifle, a shotgun and a pistol on the roof, but no indication just what was used. They would only say the rifle was "similar" to an AR15 Assault rifle. Then when I heard the shots on the video I was certain it was not the 700, nor the shotgun, nor a pistol, and certainly did not sound like .223/556. It sounded more like a pistol caliber to me. so later on when they finally identified the rifle as a kelTek Sub2000, I thought well that explains what I heard.
But then I heard it said the KelTek was found on the car seat when they arrested him. Then late yesterday afternoon I heard it was an MP15 he used on the roof, which it did not sound like to me, but I was listening to a bad video.
So after all the descriptions I've heard, I'm still not sure what I think it was. But yes, the M&P15 is very much an AR15 type rifle.
But then I heard it said the KelTek was found on the car seat when they arrested him. Then late yesterday afternoon I heard it was an MP15 he used on the roof, which it did not sound like to me, but I was listening to a bad video.
So after all the descriptions I've heard, I'm still not sure what I think it was. But yes, the M&P15 is very much an AR15 type rifle.
