Nice article on what to do and not to do on a traffic stop if your carrying….
Very good advice.i dis agree with turning on interior lights
not that its a bad thing to have lights
but my switch to turn them on is down low and easily makes you bend to see it.. so then leo might think hey robert is being suspicious
also moving around to grab wallet or insurance from glove box...NOPE NADA
in our state, they know before they step out if your LTC and a few other things like insurance
we are no longer required to say if we are armed or not,,,,,,,,which is DUMB , why would you not want to let them know your armed and where it is...traffic stops are on the best days a stressful situation even if your calm and the officer is calm
to many moving parts to not be up front right from the get go
agree just sit tight, be calm, put your phone down or dont even pick it up..if you feel you need then lay it on the dash on record, out of arms reach via the window.
wait for them to approach and dont be hoping around the vehicle, let them know right off if your armed or not and the general whereabouts...(in our state, it assumed everyone is armed)
let them ask for DL and then say its in my wallet in my pocket...etc.
in our area almost all LEOS are by themselves in a cruiser, add in stopping on a dark 2 lane in the sticks and the stress is up there for the officer. its freaking dangerous, so i try to not make it less stressful, and polite.
know your reciprocal states policy as well if your be bopping through that state
never ever give up your rights...do not try argue a legal case on side of road as you will loose
but be forthright in your knowledge of your rights and be respectful, if a search is asked for...ask what is PC and decide.
if you smell like MJ , then your going to loose the NO decision.
if your passenger smells like MJ your going to loose the NO.
but if they persist and you have nothing to hide...insist on a supervisor to arrive to give you one more witness and then wait and wait and wait patiently, usually after 20 minutes they give up..especially in an area with lots of calls for service.
there are RICHARDS dressed as LEOs, and there are RICHARDS driving vehicles too.
not all leos are bad, they are just doing a tough dangerous job , but there are dingbats in the mix as well.
i have been stopped and asked if they can search at 2 and 3 and 4 am in middle of nowhere trying to get home from taking grandchild to work or visiting parents in hospital miles away...
i say NO, as in my mind there is no reason, i was only stopped because of the the hour of the day and not speeding etc.
a leo doing a safety check at that hour does not bother me, but it does if they want to search because of the hour and cant really put PC in place so they ask nicely and you deny nicely
same goes with wanting your SSN...nope they dont need it .
its already in the system tied to your DL.
these articles are great IMO
it makes us think and maybe just maybe get back up to speed on our rights and rules for your state and others you visit.
You should have gone with the "no inform". I'm sure you could have been let go sooner (insert eyeroll).I’d like to hear all the LEO’s on here chime in what they like to see.
For me, at night, I turn on the interior lights as I’m pulling over.
I stay with hands on wheel and go for documents as Police ask for them. I inform LEO I’m carrying and where .
I got pulled over after a hog hunt around 4:30am. I’ve discussed this before. Had a .45 on my hip, i was covered in mud and had a backseat full of thermal equipped AR’s, night vison equipped helmets and mags.
Sheriff officer abouta brick. My tail light was out. I think he thought he maybe getting into a dui or such at 4:30am. I was cordial. He asked about all the equipment and he had no clue hog hunting in Tx was legal at night. Dude, you live in Texas !! And a sheriff !! What !!! He said he needs to check with a game warden. Told him only if he wanted to get laughed at at 4:30am. Told him to pull up Texas hunting laws on state website. He let me go with a warning while commenting on he never made a traffic stop with so much hardware. Showed him some pics, and he actually booked a hunt with us a couple weeks later
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I’d like to hear all the LEO’s on here chime in what they like to see.
For me, at night, I turn on the interior lights as I’m pulling over.
I stay with hands on wheel and go for documents as Police ask for them. I inform LEO I’m carrying and where .
I got pulled over after a hog hunt around 4:30am. I’ve discussed this before. Had a .45 on my hip, i was covered in mud and had a backseat full of thermal equipped AR’s, night vison equipped helmets and mags.
Sheriff officer abouta brick. My tail light was out. I think he thought he maybe getting into a dui or such at 4:30am. I was cordial. He asked about all the equipment and he had no clue hog hunting in Tx was legal at night. Dude, you live in Texas !! And a sheriff !! What !!! He said he needs to check with a game warden. Told him only if he wanted to get laughed at at 4:30am. Told him to pull up Texas hunting laws on state website. He let me go with a warning while commenting on he never made a traffic stop with so much hardware. Showed him some pics, and he actually booked a hunt with us a couple weeks later
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And that’s I won’t say anything unless I have to step out of the vehicle.I've asked many cops and gotten both kinds of answers. Seems like the older guys are telling me not to bring it up to the young guys due to it likely exciting them and causing them to overreact.