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Life After Corona

Are You Taking Covid-19 Serious?

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 79.2%
  • No

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kinda

    Votes: 4 16.7%
  • What's Covid-19

    Votes: 1 4.2%
  • I'm getting better at being cautious

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    24
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When this Corona lockdown is lifted what in everyday life do you think will be changed forever?

How has Corona changed your way of life?

What are some life lessons you learned from the virus lockdown?

Will you be more prepared now for a possible future event like this?

Do you think this will be remembered for generations?

What has been the biggest impact to you because of the Corona virus?
 
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At this time I don’t believe we will know how much this virus pandemic will affect our way of life in the future. It is without a doubt changing the way we live our lives now not only in this country but across the world. I do believe that we as a race will come back from this stronger in many ways. Understandably we need to focus on being safe and staying strong for ourselves and our loved ones as well as the people in our communities as a hole. There is only one way to beat this and that is by working together and having and showing compassion for those around us less fortunate and believing.
As strange as this sounds I remember vividly that as a child being scared of dying and after 62 years on this world living in this great country I’ve learned many things about myself and come to realize that life is what you make it.
I have two wonderful sons one of which is an adopted foster child who is himself now married and serving this country in the Air Force. My other son is an engineer with a great company currently involved in making the shell “metal box” that will become ventilators. I don’t regret a thing about my life and my only wish and daily prayer is for those that will inherit this world. I’m not sure I answered all of 10mmLife’s questions and I know I’ve been rambling so I’ll stop now by saying I’ve met so many terrific people and seen so many wonderful things during my days on this earth and my hope is that continues for as long as possible so god bless us all and god bless the USA.
 
At this time I don’t believe we will know how much this virus pandemic will affect our way of life in the future. It is without a doubt changing the way we live our lives now not only in this country but across the world. I do believe that we as a race will come back from this stronger in many ways. Understandably we need to focus on being safe and staying strong for ourselves and our loved ones as well as the people in our communities as a hole. There is only one way to beat this and that is by working together and having and showing compassion for those around us less fortunate and believing.
As strange as this sounds I remember vividly that as a child being scared of dying and after 62 years on this world living in this great country I’ve learned many things about myself and come to realize that life is what you make it.
I have two wonderful sons one of which is an adopted foster child who is himself now married and serving this country in the Air Force. My other son is an engineer with a great company currently involved in making the shell “metal box” that will become ventilators. I don’t regret a thing about my life and my only wish and daily prayer is for those that will inherit this world. I’m not sure I answered all of 10mmLife’s questions and I know I’ve been rambling so I’ll stop now by saying I’ve met so many terrific people and seen so many wonderful things during my days on this earth and my hope is that continues for as long as possible so god bless us all and god bless the USA.
I appreciate your input Keystone, you seem to have a positive outlook for the future and I feel that positive outlook is what everyone needs to help the country get through these crazy times and forge ahead!

I'm just trying to get everyone's thoughts on the subject as we all have a different opinion or outlook to the current and future events.
 
I appreciate your input Keystone, you seem to have a positive outlook for the future and I feel that positive outlook is what everyone needs to help the country get through these crazy times and forge ahead!

I'm just trying to get everyone's thoughts on the subject as we all have a different opinion or outlook to the current and future events.
Thank you sir and I look forward to others replies.
 
I take it serious
I am a beverage distributor in a large metro area and see daily those who don't take it serious. Cases are expanding rapidly in my area.

we scrub after every stop and dont touch our faces.

i watch folks sneeze or cough into their hand and then grab a grocery door handle to get beer or frozen goods or whatnot.... nasty in normal times let alone now...
 
I take it serious
I am a beverage distributor in a large metro area and see daily those who don't take it serious. Cases are expanding rapidly in my area.

we scrub after every stop and dont touch our faces.

i watch folks sneeze or cough into their hand and then grab a grocery door handle to get beer or frozen goods or whatnot.... nasty in normal times let alone now...
Yeah there are some nasty creatures out there that have no problem dooming someone else!

What are your thoughts on when this is over?
 
10mm thank you for the post.

I will try to answer your questions and give you my thoughts.

Every time something happens that allows the government to push boundaries, we give up a little more of our rights. Somehow this will affect everyday life I am sure.

I wouldn't say corona has changed my life. Yes, it has changed some things for the short term, but I imagine we will be back to normal in a month or so.

I guess the life lesson would be to keep a stock of toilet paper. In all seriousness, I would say the lesson that keeps getting repeated over and over is the on average people seem to be ignorant, clueless, and helpless. It always amazes me that the government has to tell people what to do during emergencies. Think for yourself people.

I would hope that I am better prepared for events like these in the future. Time for an after-action report.

With the way young people depend on technology to record everything and hardly lock anything into their long term memory, I doubt this will be remembered for long.

The biggest impact on me is seeing that being home with my four kids for an extended period with the wife is going to drive me crazy. I have cabin fever something fierce.

Now for some thoughts. I have wavered back and forth as to whether to buy into the madness or to try and figure out what the end game is. As an educator, I worried when it first started and hoped we didn't have any issues at the school. After they released school for a month it seemed prudent and I was satisfied with the choice. Ending my 2nd week of this madness I seem to swap back and forth daily.

I guess ultimately I haven't figured out what the left hand is doing while we are all focused on the right hand.
 
I'm concerned - not because of the illness, I still believe this is going to turn out to be less-deadly than the average seasonal flu (which we already have medication for, by the way)...but I'm concerned about Western Civilization. We've shut it all down...for this. I'm lucky in that I work in an "essential" field, so I'm still working, but even so...I'm losing money and have to figure out what to do about mortgages, car payments, and bills. People less fortunate, AREN'T working. This is going to destroy our financial infrastructure.

The thing that worries me is, when a void is created...you need to be careful about who fills it in.

My honest fear is, with the "stimulus" packages being bandied about and signed into law...we're going to end up ten steps closer to Socialism. With no election required. And people are going to eat it up. With these "emergency decrees", we're going to lose even more personal liberties (2A, ammunition, fuel, right to gather, right to speak, rule of law)...and folks are going to eat it up. Socialism, and government control...no election required.

I encourage everyone to DO YOUR RESEARCH. Look at actual numbers. Listen to the actual words spoken by the President and his staff, not to the interpretations put forth by the "press". A phrase I heard last night from one of the President's staffers was "the models predicted that by this time we'd have hundreds of thousands of bodies, and that simply hasn't happened. The models are not holding true". But not a peep about that out of the press, because that would alleviate the fear.

One current model puts total American deaths at 38,000 on the low end; 80,000 midrange; 160,000 on the high end. Out of 329 million Americans...that's a 1 in 10,000 chance a person will die from it; 1 in 4,000 chance; or, on the high end, a 1 in 2,000 chance that a person will die from coronavirus (and also note, people don't "die from" coronavirus, it simply opens the door for other, pre-existing conditions to kill you such as asthma, or heart disease). And, this is an illness we don't have medication for.

A person in the USA has lifetime odds of 1 in 10,000 of being struck by lightning.

So far this season, we have seen 22,000 deaths in the USA...from the FLU. Which we HAVE medicine for. And HAVE had, for decades. Where's THAT outrage?

For perspective, I believe last night the USA topped 1,000 COVID deaths. For the whole country. With no medication. From a disease that's been free to roam the planet since...October? November?

And, we still don't know (and never will know) how many people contract COVID-19, don't show symptoms, never show symptoms...and simply heal.

Personally, I don't believe the disease merits the amount of terror being pushed on us. Numbers don't lie.

Am I being careful? Sure. I'm washing my hands more. I always cover my coughs and sneezes (those "manners" things I was raised with). I'm keeping my distance. But...am I losing sleep in mortal fear that the human race is going to be extinguished? Nope. Am I stockpiling toilet paper, and canned food? No more than usual. Am I in fear for my life? No more than usual. I play with guns. I ride motorcycles. I've been dead before (literally), and I've long come to terms with my mortality. Does that mean I'm being careless and cavalier? Nope. I won't risk others' lives unnecessarily.

But I won't live in fear, either.

That said...I most certainly AM afraid of what this will do to the Western world. The cure is, I believe, about 1,000 times worse than the disease. In my mind, this goes beyond "an abundance of caution"...and I'm curious why. Who dropped the ball on these predictions? Or, in a more sinister bent...who has an agenda that's caused all this?

I believe the human race will be fine.

I'm afraid of who fills the financial and political vacuum when it's all over.
 
I'm concerned - not because of the illness, I still believe this is going to turn out to be less-deadly than the average seasonal flu (which we already have medication for, by the way)...but I'm concerned about Western Civilization. We've shut it all down...for this. I'm lucky in that I work in an "essential" field, so I'm still working, but even so...I'm losing money and have to figure out what to do about mortgages, car payments, and bills. People less fortunate, AREN'T working. This is going to destroy our financial infrastructure.

The thing that worries me is, when a void is created...you need to be careful about who fills it in.

My honest fear is, with the "stimulus" packages being bandied about and signed into law...we're going to end up ten steps closer to Socialism. With no election required. And people are going to eat it up. With these "emergency decrees", we're going to lose even more personal liberties (2A, ammunition, fuel, right to gather, right to speak, rule of law)...and folks are going to eat it up. Socialism, and government control...no election required.

I encourage everyone to DO YOUR RESEARCH. Look at actual numbers. Listen to the actual words spoken by the President and his staff, not to the interpretations put forth by the "press". A phrase I heard last night from one of the President's staffers was "the models predicted that by this time we'd have hundreds of thousands of bodies, and that simply hasn't happened. The models are not holding true". But not a peep about that out of the press, because that would alleviate the fear.

One current model puts total American deaths at 38,000 on the low end; 80,000 midrange; 160,000 on the high end. Out of 329 million Americans...that's a 1 in 10,000 chance a person will die from it; 1 in 4,000 chance; or, on the high end, a 1 in 2,000 chance that a person will die from coronavirus (and also note, people don't "die from" coronavirus, it simply opens the door for other, pre-existing conditions to kill you such as asthma, or heart disease). And, this is an illness we don't have medication for.

A person in the USA has lifetime odds of 1 in 10,000 of being struck by lightning.

So far this season, we have seen 22,000 deaths in the USA...from the FLU. Which we HAVE medicine for. And HAVE had, for decades. Where's THAT outrage?

For perspective, I believe last night the USA topped 1,000 COVID deaths. For the whole country. With no medication. From a disease that's been free to roam the planet since...October? November?

And, we still don't know (and never will know) how many people contract COVID-19, don't show symptoms, never show symptoms...and simply heal.

Personally, I don't believe the disease merits the amount of terror being pushed on us. Numbers don't lie.

Am I being careful? Sure. I'm washing my hands more. I always cover my coughs and sneezes (those "manners" things I was raised with). I'm keeping my distance. But...am I losing sleep in mortal fear that the human race is going to be extinguished? Nope. Am I stockpiling toilet paper, and canned food? No more than usual. Am I in fear for my life? No more than usual. I play with guns. I ride motorcycles. I've been dead before (literally), and I've long come to terms with my mortality. Does that mean I'm being careless and cavalier? Nope. I won't risk others' lives unnecessarily.

But I won't live in fear, either.

That said...I most certainly AM afraid of what this will do to the Western world. The cure is, I believe, about 1,000 times worse than the disease. In my mind, this goes beyond "an abundance of caution"...and I'm curious why. Who dropped the ball on these predictions? Or, in a more sinister bent...who has an agenda that's caused all this?

I believe the human race will be fine.

I'm afraid of who fills the financial and political vacuum when it's all over.
You said all the things I was struggling to put on paper. There is an agenda here and the majority of people all falling hook, line, and sinker for it.

Remember the vaping issues back in the fall? Are we so sure that vaping was the culprit now?
 
Hey guys, I would like to give some insight into COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2, from a healthcare provider standpoint, who is currently helping treat these patients. COVID-19 is both similar and different from the seasonal flu. Symptoms present very similarly and many of the “at-risk” populations are similar between the the two. The mortality rate is tough to calculate at the moment for COVID-19, but we know influenza has a mortality rate of 0.1% whereas, from the statistics we have right now, COVID-19 is around 2%. Another big difference is the virulence between the two. COVID-19 infects patients at a rate of 2-3 times higher than the flu. It’s an extremely rapidly infective virus. The last difference is that there is no vaccine for this virus, unlike the flu, which has been studied for over 100 years. The influenza vaccine can prevent you from getting the flu, or make the symptoms much milder if you do end up getting the flu. The main problem we are trying to prevent is hospital overload. People may think social distancing is garbage, but it is an actual proven tactic to ease the burden on hospitals. You may have it without symptoms, but spread it to someone who is at risk of experiencing complications from the virus. We don’t want to get to the point of where we have to decide who lives and who dies, or who gets a ventilator and who doesn’t. Social distancing will help prevent this. Every single day, our hospital spends 12-14 hours trying to figure out disaster planning. What are we going to do in the next few weeks when we get bombarded with COVID-19 patients? That is what we are preparing for. You can see it starting now in NYC. It’s actually pretty scary to be honest. My hospital continues to get COVID-19 patients admitted to our ICU that are younger and younger. They end up getting secondary bacterial pneumonia super-infections and need to be intubated and vented. We’ve had multiple of these COVID-19 patients die now. Please stay safe guys, and please listen to the recommendations to limit exposure.
 
10mm thank you for the post.

I will try to answer your questions and give you my thoughts.

Every time something happens that allows the government to push boundaries, we give up a little more of our rights. Somehow this will affect everyday life I am sure.

I wouldn't say corona has changed my life. Yes, it has changed some things for the short term, but I imagine we will be back to normal in a month or so.

I guess the life lesson would be to keep a stock of toilet paper. In all seriousness, I would say the lesson that keeps getting repeated over and over is the on average people seem to be ignorant, clueless, and helpless. It always amazes me that the government has to tell people what to do during emergencies. Think for yourself people.

I would hope that I am better prepared for events like these in the future. Time for an after-action report.

With the way young people depend on technology to record everything and hardly lock anything into their long term memory, I doubt this will be remembered for long.

The biggest impact on me is seeing that being home with my four kids for an extended period with the wife is going to drive me crazy. I have cabin fever something fierce.

Now for some thoughts. I have wavered back and forth as to whether to buy into the madness or to try and figure out what the end game is. As an educator, I worried when it first started and hoped we didn't have any issues at the school. After they released school for a month it seemed prudent and I was satisfied with the choice. Ending my 2nd week of this madness I seem to swap back and forth daily.

I guess ultimately I haven't figured out what the left hand is doing while we are all focused on the right hand.
I totally agree that society is willing to give up rights after every country wide scare. Most of the sheeple in our society require direction in life no matter how much they think that they are independent and are very reactionary to sudden events which leads to poor choices that can have a negative lasting impact on our future.

Thanks for your thoughts on the subject!
 
I'm concerned - not because of the illness, I still believe this is going to turn out to be less-deadly than the average seasonal flu (which we already have medication for, by the way)...but I'm concerned about Western Civilization. We've shut it all down...for this. I'm lucky in that I work in an "essential" field, so I'm still working, but even so...I'm losing money and have to figure out what to do about mortgages, car payments, and bills. People less fortunate, AREN'T working. This is going to destroy our financial infrastructure.

The thing that worries me is, when a void is created...you need to be careful about who fills it in.

My honest fear is, with the "stimulus" packages being bandied about and signed into law...we're going to end up ten steps closer to Socialism. With no election required. And people are going to eat it up. With these "emergency decrees", we're going to lose even more personal liberties (2A, ammunition, fuel, right to gather, right to speak, rule of law)...and folks are going to eat it up. Socialism, and government control...no election required.

I encourage everyone to DO YOUR RESEARCH. Look at actual numbers. Listen to the actual words spoken by the President and his staff, not to the interpretations put forth by the "press". A phrase I heard last night from one of the President's staffers was "the models predicted that by this time we'd have hundreds of thousands of bodies, and that simply hasn't happened. The models are not holding true". But not a peep about that out of the press, because that would alleviate the fear.

One current model puts total American deaths at 38,000 on the low end; 80,000 midrange; 160,000 on the high end. Out of 329 million Americans...that's a 1 in 10,000 chance a person will die from it; 1 in 4,000 chance; or, on the high end, a 1 in 2,000 chance that a person will die from coronavirus (and also note, people don't "die from" coronavirus, it simply opens the door for other, pre-existing conditions to kill you such as asthma, or heart disease). And, this is an illness we don't have medication for.

A person in the USA has lifetime odds of 1 in 10,000 of being struck by lightning.

So far this season, we have seen 22,000 deaths in the USA...from the FLU. Which we HAVE medicine for. And HAVE had, for decades. Where's THAT outrage?

For perspective, I believe last night the USA topped 1,000 COVID deaths. For the whole country. With no medication. From a disease that's been free to roam the planet since...October? November?

And, we still don't know (and never will know) how many people contract COVID-19, don't show symptoms, never show symptoms...and simply heal.

Personally, I don't believe the disease merits the amount of terror being pushed on us. Numbers don't lie.

Am I being careful? Sure. I'm washing my hands more. I always cover my coughs and sneezes (those "manners" things I was raised with). I'm keeping my distance. But...am I losing sleep in mortal fear that the human race is going to be extinguished? Nope. Am I stockpiling toilet paper, and canned food? No more than usual. Am I in fear for my life? No more than usual. I play with guns. I ride motorcycles. I've been dead before (literally), and I've long come to terms with my mortality. Does that mean I'm being careless and cavalier? Nope. I won't risk others' lives unnecessarily.

But I won't live in fear, either.

That said...I most certainly AM afraid of what this will do to the Western world. The cure is, I believe, about 1,000 times worse than the disease. In my mind, this goes beyond "an abundance of caution"...and I'm curious why. Who dropped the ball on these predictions? Or, in a more sinister bent...who has an agenda that's caused all this?

I believe the human race will be fine.

I'm afraid of who fills the financial and political vacuum when it's all over.
Wow!

Well spoken and this is definitely good for thought!
 
You said all the things I was struggling to put on paper. There is an agenda here and the majority of people all falling hook, line, and sinker for it.

Remember the vaping issues back in the fall? Are we so sure that vaping was the culprit now?
A lot of this definitely plays out like a movie where there is a larger agenda at hand to get us closer to falling in line.

But the truth is there is a vulnerable population out there that we need to think of and we need to be cautious as not to infect them.
 
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For me I am taking this serious.
I have Multiple Meyloma cancer that has no cure, so my immune system is very compromised.
I had a stem cell transplant and I was in the hospital being isolated for a month it got old real fast same room same floor.
So this home confinement is already old, but I need to do this for me.
So for all the morons who think they are invincible and can do what they want, go ahead and kill yourself just don't take me with you.
 
I like everything Peglegjoe had to say, and agree that the press is doing its best to stir up hysteria. Even with folks working from home and such, was there any real reason for the stock market to lose 35% of its value, killing retirement plans for many of us? Not that I can see, other than mass hysteria. And I feel that the media, and the corrupt Chinese government that is to blame for this world wide mess, for the most part WANTS that mass hysteria, especially in the US, as they don't like the current administration, and want to see it taken down by any means necessary.

I feel that the social distancing, even once COVID-19 slows down, will remain for a while. We will see more fist bumps and less hand shakes. You will hug your kids more, but your friends less. At least for a while. I teach a Lifegroup at my church (Sunday school we used to call it), and we've moved to an online format using Zoom, and I had 22 of the usual 35 to 40 folks actually all online in a 22 way video conference this past Sunday morning. So, life goes on, we adapt, and we do a little more FaceTime and Zoom for the time being.

We are approaching month end, and for my employer, folks who owe us money that is needed to make payroll and pay our bills are not answering their phones. We deal with customers like Seaworld and Universal Studios, Margaritaville, Old Time Pottery, and so on - all places that are shut down right now. So, time will tell if 35 years in business can survive many of our customers being shutdown, even when we are not. As a part owner, I fully expect a call any day now asking me to take a pay cut or skip some pay checks, which means tapping into savings that are decimated by the market downturn.
 
Hey guys, I would like to give some insight into COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2, from a healthcare provider standpoint, who is currently helping treat these patients. COVID-19 is both similar and different from the seasonal flu. Symptoms present very similarly and many of the “at-risk” populations are similar between the the two. The mortality rate is tough to calculate at the moment for COVID-19, but we know influenza has a mortality rate of 0.1% whereas, from the statistics we have right now, COVID-19 is around 2%. Another big difference is the virulence between the two. COVID-19 infects patients at a rate of 2-3 times higher than the flu. It’s an extremely rapidly infective virus. The last difference is that there is no vaccine for this virus, unlike the flu, which has been studied for over 100 years. The influenza vaccine can prevent you from getting the flu, or make the symptoms much milder if you do end up getting the flu. The main problem we are trying to prevent is hospital overload. People may think social distancing is garbage, but it is an actual proven tactic to ease the burden on hospitals. You may have it without symptoms, but spread it to someone who is at risk of experiencing complications from the virus. We don’t want to get to the point of where we have to decide who lives and who dies, or who gets a ventilator and who doesn’t. Social distancing will help prevent this. Every single day, our hospital spends 12-14 hours trying to figure out disaster planning. What are we going to do in the next few weeks when we get bombarded with COVID-19 patients? That is what we are preparing for. You can see it starting now in NYC. It’s actually pretty scary to be honest. My hospital continues to get COVID-19 patients admitted to our ICU that are younger and younger. They end up getting secondary bacterial pneumonia super-infections and need to be intubated and vented. We’ve had multiple of these COVID-19 patients die now. Please stay safe guys, and please listen to the recommendations to limit exposure.
I really appreciate the input especially with you being on the front lines and having actual experience and understanding of what this does to us from a health care professional standpoint.
Most of us can make assumptions about about the illness while being in an area not badly affected by this and this is a form of ignorance that we all have some form of in life.

Thank you for being on the front lines and be safe!
 
I don't disagree with you, Licensed...(and thank you for your work). We are seeing a sudden influx, and that timing is likely causing more problems than the total numbers would if it were spread out. Hence, the distancing.

I still question the mortality rate though. We're being told NOT to get tested, if we're asymptomatic.

I'll ask again - how many asymptomatic people HAVE it...and simply get over it? Never checked, never logged, never visit healthcare. How many are there? What does that do to the curve?

Once again - the models showed hundreds of thousands of bodies by now...and the USA just crested 1,000 dead.

The news cycle is now parroting "USA has highest number of COVID cases worldwide". OK - but we also have 329 MILLION souls living here. Italy? 60 million. One-FIFTH the size of the US. France, 66M. Britain, 66M. Well, duh. If this (or any) disease infects x out of Y people, we're GOING to have more cases than any other country simply because we're bigger than they are to start with. Exponentially bigger.

And to re-state for Wirenut - I agree, this is a deadly disease for those who have pre-existing conditions, and I do not willfully endanger other people if I can at all help it. I just don't see this being a species-killer worthy of shutting down all of Western Civilization. The pieces don't match. It don't add up.
 
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