Hello all, here is today's article posted on TheArmoryLife.com. It is titled “Lost Secret of Pistol Shooting: The Crush Grip” and can be found at https://www.thearmorylife.com/crush-grip-ayoob-technique/.
Lost Secret of Pistol Shooting: The Crush Grip
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ChanceMcCall
Custom
Great article!
4rchangel
Operator
I never called it the "crush grip" but the way I teach people to grip is to squeeze the grip until the gun starts shaking, and then back off just until it stops. If you can't see the pattern of the grip in your hand when you are done shooting, you aren't holding it hard enough.
McGanksta
Operator
This is how I taught my young troops in the MP Corps as well....
As a 78 year old who has been shooting 1911's since I was 12, including 22 years as a Vietnam Era combat vet, I noticed a while back that, although I was shooting great groups, they were all a bit low and left (I'm right handed). At first, I thought it was the weapon....but when the problem persisted in virtually all of my 1911's, I realized that the problem was that the "nut behind the trigger" was loose.
I realized, and my doctor confirmed, that I had arthritis in my hands and shoulders...among most other places. So I started breaking down my shooting stance, grip, and anything else I could think of. After a brief, but intense, study of ballistics surrounding God's caliber cartridge as well as other handgun calibers, I dropped down from 230 grain rounds to the relatively kinder 185 grain, and eventually, down to Underwood's 129 grain defensive loads. This helped cure part of the problem, which was anticipating the hard recoil and "flinching" or "pushing" the weapon just before the trigger break.
But I wasn't satisfied yet. I was still lower and to the left more than I cared to be. I reworked my grip a bit based on reading as many of the older experts as I could find, including a few that Massad mentioned. Tightening up the grip as hard as I could did the trick. But, I couldn't shoot repeated strings at the range and maintain the death grip that my 1911's demanded. Now, I am working with hand weights, tennis ball and spring grips to strengthen my grip strength to the point that I can maintain it for a couple of hours of throwing rounds downrange. Massad's article is spot on.
I realized, and my doctor confirmed, that I had arthritis in my hands and shoulders...among most other places. So I started breaking down my shooting stance, grip, and anything else I could think of. After a brief, but intense, study of ballistics surrounding God's caliber cartridge as well as other handgun calibers, I dropped down from 230 grain rounds to the relatively kinder 185 grain, and eventually, down to Underwood's 129 grain defensive loads. This helped cure part of the problem, which was anticipating the hard recoil and "flinching" or "pushing" the weapon just before the trigger break.
But I wasn't satisfied yet. I was still lower and to the left more than I cared to be. I reworked my grip a bit based on reading as many of the older experts as I could find, including a few that Massad mentioned. Tightening up the grip as hard as I could did the trick. But, I couldn't shoot repeated strings at the range and maintain the death grip that my 1911's demanded. Now, I am working with hand weights, tennis ball and spring grips to strengthen my grip strength to the point that I can maintain it for a couple of hours of throwing rounds downrange. Massad's article is spot on.
McGanksta
Operator
Hell yes, this is the only right answer, work on your weak spot...if only we could find a way to pass this on to the bulk of future generations.
Also, thank you for your service Sir!
Jeff Cooper and Gunsite use to recommend a modified crush grip on 1911’s where you have a crushed grip with the strong hand thumb down and the support hand somewhat the same EXCEPT the thumb of the supper hand rests on the thumb safety. I have dabbled with it and it really works as well except I have so much prior programs from revolvers I just a programmed. But like anythjng if one of the other grips isn’t working it’s simply an option and a way not the way!
I attempted to model it for you all so your Welcome LOL
I attempted to model it for you all so your Welcome LOL
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BassCliff
Professional
Hi,
That seems a little weird. But I'll experiment with it. I'll try anything once, twice if I like it.
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
That seems a little weird. But I'll experiment with it. I'll try anything once, twice if I like it.
Thank you for your indulgence,
BassCliff
I have no issue shootjng thumbs forward and resting my thumb on the safety of the 1911 and a M&P but a Glock and Sig 226 and Revolverfest it just doesn’t work for me and I have to do a revolver or crushed grip.
Here’s from my range time today with thumbs forward on my SA Operator 1911 and S&W M&P 46 2.0 the. a crushed grip on my 625 45 acp revolver. Range was 8 yards not super fast but I didn’t take a whole lot let the sights settle and just work the trigger. About 1.5 seconds per shot. I usually run a mag or 2 just to work the trigger and “feel” it as all the parts come together..sights, grip, trigger and grip
Here’s from my range time today with thumbs forward on my SA Operator 1911 and S&W M&P 46 2.0 the. a crushed grip on my 625 45 acp revolver. Range was 8 yards not super fast but I didn’t take a whole lot let the sights settle and just work the trigger. About 1.5 seconds per shot. I usually run a mag or 2 just to work the trigger and “feel” it as all the parts come together..sights, grip, trigger and grip
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KillerFord1977
SAINT
Resident sensei I shoot with never uses a crush grip, nor do I.
Its all about technique, and there are more ways than crush.
Sensei At 15 yrds distance. 5 diff guns.
Its all about technique, and there are more ways than crush.
Sensei At 15 yrds distance. 5 diff guns.
Belt Fed
Ronin
Show off.
KillerFord1977
SAINT
Im not the senseiShow off.
