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President Franklin D. Roosevelt orders Gen. Douglas MacArthur out of the Philippines, as the American defense of the islands collapses.

President Roosevelt to MacArthur: Get out of the Philippines | February 22, 1942 | HISTORY

President Franklin D. Roosevelt orders Gen. Douglas MacArthur out of the Philippines, as the American defense of the islands collapses. The Philippines had been part of the American commonwealth since it was ceded by Spain at the close of the Spanish‑American War. When the Japanese invaded China...
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There would be less problems in Asia if he stayed! He knew that Russia would be a problem as it took , what less than 4 years to finish the pacific theater compared to Europe counter parts. I know it's probably more difficult to drop a h-bomb there? He was a total badass compared to the rest of the generals! Eisenhower was a wimp and Truman was no help!
 
TEXASforLIFE said:
There would be less problems in Asia if he stayed! He knew that Russia would be a problem as it took , what less than 4 years to finish the pacific theater compared to Europe counter parts. I know it's probably more difficult to drop a h-bomb there? He was a total badass compared to the rest of the generals! Eisenhower was a wimp and Truman was no help!
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And he should have listened to Patton about Russia.
 
TEXASforLIFE said:
There would be less problems in Asia if he stayed! He knew that Russia would be a problem as it took , what less than 4 years to finish the pacific theater compared to Europe counter parts. I know it's probably more difficult to drop a h-bomb there? He was a total badass compared to the rest of the generals! Eisenhower was a wimp and Truman was no help!
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The ETO and PTO were two entirely two different operating theatres.

Eisenhower had more cat herding than McArthur did in the Pacific, and Eisenhower was always closer to the action than McArthur was 99% of the time.

McArthur was a character to be kind, and there were several reasons why the Pacific ops were divided between Nimitz and McArthur based on Roosevelts' and Kings' wisdom.

And WW2 in Europe ended before the Pacific.
 
I never had much respect for MacArther in WW2-he KNEW the Japanese had already attacked Pearl Harbor, yet he allowed HIS forces in the P.I. To be caught flat footed a few hours later (and his airforce was destroyed on the ground). Then he turns around and runs to Australia leaving Wainwright to surrender and spend 4 years in a Japanese prison camp. Not my idea of a “great commander”. That said, in Korea-his plan for Inchon was genius, and if the politicians had stayed out of it we wouldn’t have chairman Kim and his BS today.
 
Talyn said:
The ETO and PTO were two entirely two different operating theatres.

Eisenhower had more cat herding than McArthur did in the Pacific, and Eisenhower was always closer to the action than McArthur was 99% of the time.

McArthur was a character to be kind, and there were several reasons why the Pacific ops were divided between Nimitz and McArthur based on Roosevelts' and Kings' wisdom.

And WW2 in Europe ended before the Pacific.
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Navy has never been a boots on ground force like the army. Thus nimitz had only oceanic power. Although whether it was Europe or pacific theatre it was a combined effort. Forgot about wainwright. Patton and other European generals had had massive loss also with little improvement.
 
TEXASforLIFE said:
Navy has never been a boots on ground force like the army. Thus nimitz had only oceanic power. Although whether it was Europe or pacific theatre it was a combined effort. Forgot about wainwright. Patton and other European generals had had massive loss also with little improvement.
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The JCS designated Nimitz as Commander in Chief over all Allied forces in the entire Pacific Ocean Area, essentially overseeing the whole Pacific war against Japan as the Commander in Chief, Pacific Fleet and Commander in Chief, Pacific Ocean Areas.

While Nimitz had more control over the sea operations across the Pacific, MacArthur led land-based campaigns in a "specific geographic area" = the "Southwest Pacific Area," which primarily included Australia, New Guinea, and the Philippines. As "Commander in Chief, SW Pacific theater," MacArthur focusing on campaigns in the Philippines, New Guinea, and the Dutch East Indies.

A potion of the USN resources were given over to McArthur to support his follow-on campaigns up thru the Solomon Island Region then on to New Guinea in prep for going to the Philippines.

BTW, the USN had its "boots on the ground" in the form of the USMC which we all know is directly tied to the USN.

Guadalcanal was a combined effort with the USN expending ALOT of resources to stem the Japanese with McArthur calling the ground/air effort there & with the follow-on march up towards Rabaul, which was bypassed.

Afterwards, McArthur was never involved in the central Pacific Island campaigns, Guam and the Marianas.

They two shared the campaign for the Philippines with McArthur with his Army/USN forces and Nimitz with the large fleet forces, and once the Japanese naval forces were defeated Nimitz moved on to focus on Iwo Jima then Okinawa.

Regarding the ETO/MTO the USN had a much smaller role aside from the notable convoy escort work by the lesser forces, and the landing support in the Med and D-Day landings, with the majority of its forces being sent to the Pacific.
 
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