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Mike Rowe’s Unintentional But Valuable Range Safety Tip

That's really interesting and I agree. But I don't think it's entirely up to the person. Your job has a responsibility to keep you safe. This is the difference between having safety rules and enforcing them. And it is why roofers have such a high on-the-job injury rate.
 
jschmidt said:
That's really interesting and I agree. But I don't think it's entirely up to the person. Your job has a responsibility to keep you safe. This is the difference between having safety rules and enforcing them. And it is why roofers have such a high on-the-job injury rate.
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I've been in the trades my entire life, about 40 years now. I worked for a lot and owned a few construction companies. A large percentage of my working career was spent very far off the ground on walkboards on ladder jacks. I have done hundreds of roofs, sided thousands of houses and buildings and installed tens of thousands of windows. In the 20 plus years I was a contractor I never had an injured employee except once. A guy scoring a piece of aluminum ended up cutting through a nerve in his little finger. Completely his fault. In that same time frame I paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in work comp insurance.

The fact is, this isn't 1810. The vast majority of employers provide safe working conditions and 99% of workplace injuries are the fault of the employee, who then turns around and sues the employer. More examples of people looking for a free ride.
 
Bassbob said:
I've been in the trades my entire life, about 40 years now. I worked for a lot and owned a few construction companies. A large percentage of my working career was spent very far off the ground on walkboards on ladder jacks. I have done hundreds of roofs, sided thousands of houses and buildings and installed tens of thousands of windows. In the 20 plus years I was a contractor I never had an injured employee except once. A guy scoring a piece of aluminum ended up cutting through a nerve in his little finger. Completely his fault. In that same time frame I paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in work comp insurance.

The fact is, this isn't 1810. The vast majority of employers provide safe working conditions and 99% of workplace injuries are the fault of the employee, who then turns around and sues the employer. More examples of people looking for a free ride.
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I find it curious that you think no one falls off a roof because they weren't wearing a safety harneess. Or because got bumped into by another guy. But if you did provide a safe environment then you're actually agreeing with me. And you should be commended.

Your simplistic anti-worker screed, though, doesn't say much. Sorry to point it out, but you sound like the proverbial guy with a hammer. Everyone looks like a nail.
 
jschmidt said:
I find it curious that you think no one falls off a roof because they weren't wearing a safety harneess. Or because got bumped into by another guy. But if you did provide a safe environment then you're actually agreeing with me. And you should be commended.

Your simplistic anti-worker screed, though, doesn't say much. Sorry to point it out, but you sound like the proverbial guy with a hammer. Everyone looks like a nail.
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You ever try to side a house or roof one with a safety harness on ? You think it's really necessary to have one on, tied to a life line across the roof, anytime you're higher than 6' off the ground?

I actually think not that many people fall off roofs while roofing houses. I know 8 :poop: tons of roofers, but very, VERY few who ever fell off a roof. And other than extremely steep pitched roofs I never saw one wearing a harness. Even though OSHA demands it. Know why ? Because most roofers get paid by the square and it's GD difficult to make money when you're fighting with a harness all day.

Not sure what you mean by the proverbial guy with a hammer, but I used to be a guy with a hammer. And $10,000 worth of the best equipment money can buy. These days I am a guy in a trackhoe. If you're suggesting I am a guy who uses a hammer to fix everything, ( that is, I don't know WTF I am doing) I can give you a list of customers and contractors it would take you 4 months to read through who will all attest to the legitimacy of me being the most expensive guy in town for 20 years. I literally have never had an unsatisfied customer. Ever. Wanna know why I'm not still in Business ? The Obama administration in a pigheaded attempt to pay for Obamacare mandated some utterly ridiculous rules with regards to lead remediation ( I can expound in this if I must :rolleyes:) and 15% of every penny I made I was forced to pay some GD insurance company for Worker's Compensation Insurance even though in 20 years I had zero work comp claims. There was literally one company writing those policies in this state. One. And then there's OSHA. I spent an extra 10k and wasted countless man hours complying with their rules, which were clearly written by some jagoff in an office somewhere who had no understanding of the work I actually did. And buddy, I never had more than 3 employees, and usually it was just me and one other guy. I spent more money per year on work comp than a lot of people make in a year. And the main reason is because I was not a guy who just owned a company. I was also the guy doing the work. So after working from 7 AM until dark every day I got to come home and take care of all the other aspects of my business. Which frankly stressed me out and made me a complete prick. My wife was going to leave me. So I got a job working for a utility. Pays well and guess what ? The only thing about it that gives me any sense of accomplishment is the fact that all the customers who's properties I work on think I walk on water. I am the epitome of what customer service should be. In the 11 years I have worked here I have had zero unhappy customers and countless customers called downtown to thank my company for the job I did.

So yeah, more than a hammer. I'm just a guy who thinks I should actually have to earn my living and has no problem performing to those expectations. I'm 55 years old and I outwork all these young bastards I work with.
 
"Roofing Deaths Decrease in 2020, but is One of Top 3 Deadliest Occupations

The amount of roofing contractors dying as a result of workplace injuries has modestly decreased, according to the latest data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), but it is now one of the top three fatal occupations in the United States.

Data from the annual Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries shows that in 2020, 108 roofing contractors died as a result of a workplace injury. These deaths accounted for 2.2% of fatal workplace injuries in 2020. It’s a 2.7% decrease compared to last year’s data.

Falls continue to remain the main cause of death for roofing contractors. Of the 108 deaths, 80 of them were due to falls, slips and trips. The remaining 13 were due to exposure to harmful substances or environments. The total amount of deaths related to falls, slips and trips was 805, down from 880 in 2019. This means roofing accounted for 9.9% of all fatal falls in 2020. Sadly, one such incident in 2020 involved a 16-year-old roofer in Tennessee who fell approximately 160 feet to the ground.

"Exposure to fall hazards makes roofing work among the most dangerous jobs in construction. (The Occupational Safety and Health Administration) requires fall protection when working at heights greater than 6 feet," said OSHA Area Director Howard Eberts in Cleveland.

Even though there were fewer roofing deaths in 2020, roofing is still one of the deadliest occupations. The fatal work injury rate for roofers is 47 per 100,000 full-time equivalent (FTE) workers. By comparison, the average fatal work injury rate is 3.4 per 100,000 FTE workers. This means roofing’s fatality rate is 13 times higher than the average.

The only occupations more deadly than roofing in 2020 were fishing and hunting workers (132.1) and logging workers (91.7)."
Roofing Deaths Decrease in 2020, but is One of Top 3 Deadliest Occupations
 
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