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ECS686

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This is not a Bashing just an FYI (and I run a Sig 226 as a duty gun half the time)

This was posted on an Rangemaster Instructor FB group page by reliable sources.

Apparently within the last couple days the North California public training authority banned the use of Sig 320’s at their facilities due to all the issues.

This is after the Washington state academy (or whatever they call it) also supposedly restricted Sig 320 products.

So I’m curious how and when it gets rectified.

Living through the Hkick leg issues this seems to be more prevalent and the thing with Glock in the late 80’smwe learned to not put our fingers on the triggers as we drew like DA revolvers so it sort of rectified itself a lot faster than this did so I feel it’s more than a finger a trigger issue but we shall see.


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ECS686 said:
This is not a Bashing just an FYI (and I run a Sig 226 as a duty gun half the time)

This was posted on an Rangemaster Instructor FB group page by reliable sources.

Apparently within the last couple days the North California public training authority banned the use of Sig 320’s at their facilities due to all the issues.

This is after the Washington state academy (or whatever they call it) also supposedly restricted Sig 320 products.

So I’m curious how and when it gets rectified.

Living through the Hkick leg issues this seems to be more prevalent and the thing with Glock in the late 80’smwe learned to not put our fingers on the triggers as we drew like DA revolvers so it sort of rectified itself a lot faster than this did so I feel it’s more than a finger a trigger issue but we shall see.


Thoughts?
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Hkick leg issues??
 
KillerFord1977 said:
Well, for one, NCA Reg Public Safety Training Facility is issuing its own verdict and its not coming from the State of CA.
#2, just because someone or entity is being sued, doesnt mean its fact or true
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The state of Washington banned 320s from their academy

And here is a link from the Rangemaster Instructor group of DOD issues

This is much more than a fluke or finger on a trigger

 
KillerFord1977 said:
Yeah, its poor holster design by Safariland and training of officers
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A holster putting pressure on a frame shouldn’t make a gun go off.

As far as trainjng while there is always some that don’t get with it the training issue was really prevalent when the Hkock leg stuff as we were taught to start pulling that DA revolver trigger but we as agencies learned to change ways very early in and the Hkock leg issues stopped within the first year the Sig 320 continues to have issues how many years later?

There are other designs with cocked strikers that don’t suffer this S&W M&P’s HK VP9 Walther PDP

Love my 226 but I have to say there is enough for me to say Sig needs to do something on the 320 issue as there are some legitimate issues that are not user error or holster design
 
ECS686 said:
A holster putting pressure on a frame shouldn’t make a gun go off.

As far as trainjng while there is always some that don’t get with it the training issue was really prevalent when the Hkock leg stuff as we were taught to start pulling that DA revolver trigger but we as agencies learned to change ways very early in and the Hkock leg issues stopped within the first year the Sig 320 continues to have issues how many years later?

There are other designs with cocked strikers that don’t suffer this S&W M&P’s HK VP9 Walther PDP

Love my 226 but I have to say there is enough for me to say Sig needs to do something on the 320 issue as there are some legitimate issues that are not user error or holster design
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There is equal debate on poor design versus user ineptitude or poor holster design by the company that supplies a vast majority of law enforcement.
 
KillerFord1977 said:
There is equal debate on poor design versus user ineptitude or poor holster design by the company that supplies a vast majority of law enforcement.
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There has been enough guns going off witnessed by things like oh say Gunsite Instuctors that are watching hands not being in a gun (as it was a carbine class) and other cases even in video but yest some folks want to write off a holster or user error.

While there will always be a couple of those there is enough proof to me that something is happening mechanically. And I use to be skeptical as well as large State Agencies haven’t reported (TX, OH, VA etc) them (maybe they hold that close but there are enough network of Gunsite and Ramgemaster instructors that usually gets shared as an awareness issue)

The other reason I focus on the gun as I mentioned you have other makes that have a cocked striker like M&P’s HK VP9’s and Walthers that don’t just go off. In the M&Ps case there is enough large agencies issuing (CHP, Washington State and others we would have that yet there is no data other than that guy/gal having a user induced issue.
 
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