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Hi-Point Introduces the 995P, 1095P and 4595P Pistols

Discover Hi-Point's new pistol series: the 995P, 4595P, and 1095P. Enjoy reliability, accuracy, and American craftsmanship.
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I actually love Hi Points. My JXP 10 is the best $200 I have ever spent
I have been kicking around the idea of a carbine for some time.
I have two issues with these.
At first, they are only making 9MM and 45. While I understand the idea of not making 30 Super Carry (they make a carbine in that caliber), 380 and 40, I think it's a bad idea not to make 10MM. I think this thing in 10MM would be amazing.
Two, MSRP is around $500, which is way too much since the carbines are only around $300
 
Here's what i don't understand about Hi Point, why don't the goobers that design the looks of their guns make them more eye appealing. 90% of the claims you hear against them are they are ugly. now they could make them out of the same materials and still have a cheaper price but they could do something on looks.

That pistol is way overpriced. no way i would buy that ugly turd for 500 bucks. They could redesign that ugly forearm and those hideous looking sights and still keep the price down. if they made them look halfway decent they would sell a lot more. most people won't buy them cause of their looks. the innovation is bad as Glocks.

The 10mm pistol is not bad on looks and it works, some of the 9mm pistols they have is ridiculous looking. the print patterns on some you'd think someone did as a joke. Very poor designs from them. i'm sure they sell a lot of them for price and sold tons to hood rats. but a redesign of their products might just put them in more serious gun owners homes.
 
There are some carbines out there that don't have the ugly forend stuff, but they aren't beautiful. I have heard them referred to as "classic". Have one in .40SW, but the drawback is no pic rail.

Agree that with some aesthetic changes more people would look at their guns. The problem for them is it may move them off their price point.

The California compliant version raises the bar on ugly.
 

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Belt Fed said:
Here's what i don't understand about Hi Point, why don't the goobers that design the looks of their guns make them more eye appealing. 90% of the claims you hear against them are they are ugly. now they could make them out of the same materials and still have a cheaper price but they could do something on looks.

That pistol is way overpriced. no way i would buy that ugly turd for 500 bucks. They could redesign that ugly forearm and those hideous looking sights and still keep the price down. if they made them look halfway decent they would sell a lot more. most people won't buy them cause of their looks. the innovation is bad as Glocks.

The 10mm pistol is not bad on looks and it works, some of the 9mm pistols they have is ridiculous looking. the print patterns on some you'd think someone did as a joke. Very poor designs from them. i'm sure they sell a lot of them for price and sold tons to hood rats. but a redesign of their products might just put them in more serious gun owners homes.
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The design would be simple, sure. But they would have to retool everything to actually make them.
And they do sell a ton.
And a lot of serious gun owners have them, just not gun snobs.
 
Blackmesa96 said:
There are some carbines out there that don't have the ugly forend stuff, but they aren't beautiful. I have heard them referred to as "classic". Have one in .40SW, but the drawback is no pic rail.

Agree that with some aesthetic changes more people would look at their guns. The problem for them is it may move them off their price point.

The California compliant version raises the bar on ugly.
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Yes, that is the classic stock. That was the first design, prior to switching to the newer TS, or target stock.
I agree the forfend on the new ones are ugly, but the guns work, and you can get the 995 for about $300 and the thing just works. Fun to shoot, negligible recoil
 
My wife loved hers. Thing shot like crazy, any .45 acp you shoved in the magazine. Accurate as all get out, never had a failure with it, was handgun magazine to fist easy to reload, the controls worked well for her, and the the pistol grip forward and vertical grip worked well with her wrists and arthritis. She loved shooting it for a time. In the end though it just got too heavy for her wrists. So we sold it to my nephew who loves it.
 
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