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NICS: Delaying And Denying Your Right To Keep And Bear Arms

BobM

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And interesting article, views and perspectives on and about NICS. It raises some thoughts about what may happen to and what is involved to an FFL concerning NICS and an applicants submission to NICS background checks;

 
Add Illinois State Police to the mix.
Renewing or applying for an FOID card or a CCL permit is super slow, they claim manpower and all the new first time applicants.
A lawsuit by the Illinois State Rifle Association finally is being heard by the courts.
Hopefully the result goes our way.
 
Thanks for the link, Bob.

Maybe I read the article wrong, but it looks to me like this is a New Hampshire problem more than a problem with NICS. Did I miss something? As I recall, that is why the 3 day "end of waiting" period was put in the NICS law in the first place. That way, government cannot just interminably delay a purchase based on agency mismanagment by claiming they "need more staff" or "need more money.".
 
Thanks for the link, Bob.

Maybe I read the article wrong, but it looks to me like this is a New Hampshire problem more than a problem with NICS. Did I miss something? As I recall, that is why the 3 day "end of waiting" period was put in the NICS law in the first place. That way, government cannot just interminably delay a purchase based on agency mismanagment by claiming they "need more staff" or "need more money.".
New Hampshire law is more restrictive than federal law.
 
New Hampshire only uses the federal NICS system for long guns and all other firearms including stripped lowers goes through the state background system.

I get delayed with every long gun purchase and I get a proceed with handguns and lowers everytime through the state system.
 
Good link Bob, thanks, very interesting read, I got a feeling if the administration doesn't get there way on gun control agenda, they will with the (AFT).....lol....ATF to do something to make it longer to get your background check done, so it may be days instead of instant, just my opinion.
 
Thanks for the link, Bob.

Maybe I read the article wrong, but it looks to me like this is a New Hampshire problem more than a problem with NICS. Did I miss something? As I recall, that is why the 3 day "end of waiting" period was put in the NICS law in the first place. That way, government cannot just interminably delay a purchase based on agency mismanagment by claiming they "need more staff" or "need more money.".
You're welcome Somorris,

From what read/saw from this perspective, New Hampshire was just an example. Thought article was interesting angle.

What else saw was an article, more of an awareness/perspective type story of what can and may happen to an FFL and applicant/purchaser plus other related things. And, what can happen if NICS is overwhelmed by applicants during an issue like Covid Virus. To me, what seen is the whole NICS idea and procedure is fraught with overidealist horse hockey to appease a few that may have *understandably over reacted to a scenario out of grief and had the means to implement legal procedures effecting the rights of others in their time of grief. The 2nd Amendment is there to protect us all from injustices from injustices among other things, from no matter the supposed intent, good or not so much. It's there in black and white. 3 day Brady Bill isn't anything but another infringement. Same with NICS and firearm registration. * Understandably doesn't mean is right, just understandable is all.

Other things? Supposed gun retrieval, if NICS Background check comes back denied after three days and dealer has legally sold firearm to customer is just one example seen. If you're the seller, what do you think, see or feel about situation? If purchaser? Same or different scenario? Both people did supposed legal procedure only to be told later on it wasn't?

So much for the actual legality of whatever being valid or for that matter, the legality or righteousness of anything else in law?

Another thing is, according to what's posted on NICS website, firearm can be "legally" be sold if not hearing back from NICS after three days. Legally is keyword. That means it's legally no longer dealers responsibility to retrieve if firearm was legally sold, it's the new owners legal possession and responsibility to do whatever in a legally responsible way. Trying to abide by supposed legalities isn't easy on any end if those laws are poorly constructed or written.
 
Good link Bob, thanks, very interesting read, I got a feeling if the administration doesn't get there way on gun control agenda, they will with the (AFT).....lol....ATF to do something to make it longer to get your background check done, so it may be days instead of instant, just my opinion.
Thanks Anni,
Sometimes is hard grasping whether to laugh, cry or frown when dealing with some government clowns ideas?
Leaders aren't always the best of the best or even real leadership material at all sometimes? If they are the best can come up with, we're really in deep garbanzo beans?

P.S. You hadn't heard good old Uncle Joe renamed ATF the AFT yet? May've missed the memo? :)
 
Tucker showed Chairman Joe's nominee for ATF director last night. The guy is a real foaming-at-the-mouth nutcase with a long history of nutty proclamations, and coming from the Giffords ant-2A group.

Hope the Repubs put a snails crawl notice on him for confirmation.

I have no doubt that the NICS approval process with be told to slow down on approvals, and FFLs will be feeling the heat with increased compliance visits.
 
Tucker showed Chairman Joe's nominee for ATF director last night. The guy is a real foaming-at-the-mouth nutcase with a long history of nutty proclamations, and coming from the Giffords ant-2A group.

Hope the Repubs put a snails crawl notice on him for confirmation.

I have no doubt that the NICS approval process with be told to slow down on approvals, and FFLs will be feeling the heat with increased compliance visits.
Saw Tucker too. Not doubting the behind the scenes things either.
Some "writing on the wall" is hard to ignore at times?

Can also see Covid being used as nothing more than an excuse just like using kid's safety to pop up ears and promote more ignorant over baked restrictions too? Their numbers rarely add up correctly to sanity or reality from what read, seen or experienced. Typical poor government knee jerk over reactions to unknown self serving agenda's and actual complete facts?
 
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