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Sportsman's Warehouse Becomes Newest Acquisition of Bass Pro Shops

We didn't see this one coming, but hey, it's 2020. Bass Pro Shops has just acquired Sportsman's Warehouse in an unexpected deal.
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I don't hate Bass Pro, but I sure will exhaust almost every avenue trying to find it somewhere else before I buy from them. Including Sportsman's Warehouse. When they bought Cabelas, Cabelas became Bass Pro. It's not like they just left it alone. I imagine they will do the same here. They're just running their competition out is all.
 
I don't think running the competition out of business is a good thing, but on the other hand, if you are able to do that you must be doing something right. Bass Pro was started by Johnny Morris in Missouri not too long ago. I happened to know the local manager in Memphis, and Mr. Morris treats his employees, at least the manager level, very well. I suspect he also treats his line employees well. I know he provides his customers with a shopping experience that I didn't see at Sportsman's Warehouse. Not sure about Cabelas since we didn't have a local store. During the pandemic, Bass Pro has been sponsoring a free once-a-week music entertainment for folks. All you had to do was tune in, and it gave the entertainers something to do. Personally, I like Bass Pro.
 
Cabelas is pretty similar to the Bass Pro Shops I've been in. Aside from some...uninformed sales people and higher than average prices I have no problem with Bass Pro Shops or Cabelas. They are fun to visit. I only worry about losing competition in the market. Hopefully some of the other shops can keep the Bass Pro Shops businesses in check for the sake of prices.
 
somorris said:
I don't think running the competition out of business is a good thing, but on the other hand, if you are able to do that you must be doing something right. Bass Pro was started by Johnny Morris in Missouri not too long ago. I happened to know the local manager in Memphis, and Mr. Morris treats his employees, at least the manager level, very well. I suspect he also treats his line employees well. I know he provides his customers with a shopping experience that I didn't see at Sportsman's Warehouse. Not sure about Cabelas since we didn't have a local store. During the pandemic, Bass Pro has been sponsoring a free once-a-week music entertainment for folks. All you had to do was tune in, and it gave the entertainers something to do. Personally, I like Bass Pro.
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Yeah, I was born and raised in Missouri. The Bass Pro in Springfield was a pilgrimage. The problem is their prices. Some of them are borderline ridiculous. All those waterfalls, nature scenes and ferris wheels have to be paid for by someone. Not me, but someone. The more companies are bought by Bass Pro, the less companies in the market with decent prices. No way around that.
 
Only bought a few things from Bass Pro (ammo and accessories) when the price was right (special or clearance sale). Have 3 local LGS's where pricing and service is usually better. For firearms at the local Bass Pro, you have to take a number and wait, usually a half hour or more, for your turn. I pick the ammo and accessories I want when I shop there (not often) and take them to the Archery department register for speedy checkout.
 
Lock n' Load said:
Only bought a few things from Bass Pro (ammo and accessories) when the price was right (special or clearance sale). Have 3 local LGS's where pricing and service is usually better. For firearms at the local Bass Pro, you have to take a number and wait, usually a half hour or more, for your turn. I pick the ammo and accessories I want when I shop there (not often) and take them to the Archery department register for speedy checkout.
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Same here. I did buy a Shield PC .40 from Cabelas, but this was before the Bass Pro hostile takeover happened. And yeah, it was overpriced pretty good. Back then I didn't realize I could order whatever I wanted off the internet so I pretty much had to buy it where I could find it.
 
I think the problem with this is the corporatization or homogenization of everything. So where there may have been differences from one retail store to the other when they are run by the same headquarters, now everything becomes about economies of scale. All the same suppliers, buyers, etc. and as was previously stated, Cabelas becomes no different to Bass Pro, as will become the case with Sportsmen's Warehouse. This is the same fate that has befallen the car industry. Each manufacturer has to have their corporate look, hence almost every car from a given stable looks like a bigger or smaller version of the one next to it.
 
Maybe another side to this issue is that we're seeing more and more stores with gun sales getting out of the gun business ...... "Dick's Sporting Goods" comes to mind, and obviously "WalMart" is either out of the business or extremely limited are just 2 examples of the retail side. Then just a couple month's ago we saw quite a redistribution of gun manufacturers and distributors/wholesalers realign due in part to bankruptcy pressures.

The bottom line here is that as we see fewer and fewer gun stores/outlets, regardless of the reason, prices will still be going up. But as I see it, the bigger/stronger financially these type stores are, the less likely they are to fold under pressure from the anti-gun establishment. We've already seen as an example "Remington" under a lot of financial pressure finally folding. Don't know exactly where the Sandy Hook lawsuit had to do with it, or where it stands now that the gun maker is 'no longer'. And there's a lot of talk about repealing the law that protects these gun manufacturers from frivolous suits. We know the anti gun crowd will jump on that with both feet.

I guess what I'm thinking is whether many smaller stores or fewer much bigger/stronger stores will be able to withstand these coming pressures better. I don't have the answer, but I'm pretty sure it's a question that will be coming up. :confused::unsure:
 
Shocking & disappointing news.

When I lived back east for a few years I went into a Bass Pro place & wasn't impressed. It seemed like the KMart odf Sporting Goods stores. Cheap & frivalous crap. Never went back into one.

Then BP bought Cabelas and basically destroyed it. My local Cabelas went down-hill big time. I know folks behind the counter there & hear all the horror stories. If you're not management you're expendable and floor sweepings. Then all the BP crap started flowing in with cheap clothes & JMs-branded crap. I still go periodically to see buds but have cut out almost all business with Bassbelas.

Johnny M doesn't have a clue in how to market to the "Western" outdoors market, and tries to push stuff that's appropriate for conditions back east but isn't appropriate for western conditions.

Pushing bass fishing stuff in Montana doesn't make any sense. The rivers on the west-side have motorized restrictions except for the downstream reservoirs towards Idaho, and a couple big reservoirs on the east-side. The small-mouth bass fishing in some waters is more like going for trout anyhow.

I see JM as a robber baron that swoops in and gobbles up a business and then screws things up.

The local Sportsmans Warehouse is far superior to BP & Cabelas. If BP has bought Sportsmans Warehouse then it will go downhill also. With one of each in town it will be interesting to see what happens, but Scheels is building a store in town and that may kill off one of the other two especially the Cabelas place. I don't see a reason why they'd push BP & Cabelas/JM-branded stuff in both stores.

If Sportsman's Warehouse tanks like Cabelas did then I'll be shifting more of my business to others. It sounds like JM will be pounding the stake in the heart of Sportsman's Warehouse in the last 1/2 hlf of 21 so I'll get what I can before it dies.

My .02
 
I have a bad feeling Walmart will be buying BPS within the next 5 years. I really hope I am wrong. But the fact that they stopped selling guns and ammo means they have a MASSIVE backstock they are sitting on. Businesses don't like that. What better way to ensure they never have to worry about this again? Buy a giant retailer that doesn't have to worry about things like this. It would put them into a position to never have to worry about winding up in this situation again.
 
I've always preferred Bass Pro to Cabela's, even after Bass Pro bought them. I frequently buy ammo from BP because they haven't raised their prices nearly as much as others during the pandemic, and they offer free shipping. I've only purchased a few guns from them, and only on deep sales. I'm not too big on one company buying all their competitors, but I accept it as part of the free market.
 
wmg1299 said:
I've always preferred Bass Pro to Cabela's, even after Bass Pro bought them. I frequently buy ammo from BP because they haven't raised their prices nearly as much as others during the pandemic, and they offer free shipping. I've only purchased a few guns from them, and only on deep sales. I'm not too big on one company buying all their competitors, but I accept it as part of the free market.
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Well I have to say a few weeks ago I did buy a bunch of 12 gauge slugs from them ( online) The price was near normal ( $6/box of 5 for Federal Truball rifled 1 oz slugs 1600 fps). You had to spend I think $75 to get free shipping, So I think I bought 13 or 14 boxes.
 
KenP76 said:
But the fact that they(wal-mart) stopped selling guns and ammo means they have a MASSIVE backstock they are sitting on. Businesses don't like that.
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They do not have a massive backstock. They sent back or liquidated through sales. When wally stopped selling firearms about 15yr ago in my area they sent back to the manufacturer firearms they could not sell at the Thanksgiving black Friday sales. Ammo the just dropped prices and let the public know they would no longer be selling military designated rounds or handgun ammo. Now all local WM sell shotgun and rifle with the exception of .223/5.56-7.62x51.

Ammo flew off the shelves and it has not came back. I was buying 200rds of .223 for 50.00 and 150rds grn tip for 50.00. 200 rds of .45acp was 60.00 and 500rds of 9mm was 85.00.
 
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