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oiling issue (again)..????

Old_Me

Old_Me

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i cannot find my other thread about this.

it had to do with "oil evaporating"????

i was using Weapon Shield synthetic.....(at that time of that thread being posted)

ok, so since then, i have been using FP 10 Lubricant Elite...

i took my G-17 to the range back in November of '22.

shot 150 rounds, part reloads, part factory new.

gun ran flawlessly.

took it home, cleaned with Hoppes 9, and lubed with FP-10

taking it to the range in a few minutes.

just for "Schlitz and giggles", i take it apart.....

"where's the oil"....??

rails....dry

slide....dry....

like WTF...?????

now, in comparison....

i took my Kimber 1911 last week....

last time to the range was also November '22

FP 10 was used to lube it.....Hoppes 9 to clean it

slides, rails were "still wet"......when i took it last week........

WTF...???

differences in the metals, where "maybe" the Glocks are more (dare i say) porous than any of the 1911's that i have..????

but then, back last year, when i strictly used the Weapon Shield, ALL guns were "dry" and i had to relube them, before a range trip....????

what da hell is going on...????

i am beside myself on this.......i ain't never experienced anything like this.

oil stays where oil is put.......

and to be further clear....ALL my guns are stored in upright, as in a "shooting position", not laying flat, for the oil to migrate out, otherwise, i'd "feel" the oil in the storage case(s) each gun is kept in.

i don't buy it from here, but this is what i have been using.
otistec.com

Shooter's Choice FP-10 Lubricant Elite CLP 4oz

Shooter's Choice Firearms CLP (clean, lubricate, protect) reduces friction and wear, protects against rust and corrosion, and removes carbon, lead & powder fouling ; eliminating most malfunctions
otistec.com otistec.com

thanks in advance

going to the range now
 
Oil soaks in and oil evaporates. Do the surfaces look and feel slick ? If you can see oil on your gun you are using WAY too much oil.
I use weapon Shield ( among others) and have no problems. Even grabbing an AR out of a safe going straight up the range and dumping 400 rounds through it without extra lubrication.

Maybe you should consider synthetic motor oil. Mobil 1 isn’t as good as it used to be but Castrol is great stuff. And use lubriplate on anything that slides.
 
I think this is the old thread you were looking for-
www.thearmorylife.com

Have any of you run into this situation?

ok, so in my stock of lubes, i have Weapon Shield, Hoppes, and Gibbs the Gibbs was a "free" sample to my Korth revolver. the Weapon Shield, i bought after watching several videos on it's ability to cut down wear on metal parts. the Hoppes, well, cuz Hoppes was more pronounced on the shelf at...
www.thearmorylife.com www.thearmorylife.com

I usually use Hoppe's oil.
For long term storage I'll use a grease like TW-25.
 
shanneba said:
I think this is the old thread you were looking for-
www.thearmorylife.com

Have any of you run into this situation?

ok, so in my stock of lubes, i have Weapon Shield, Hoppes, and Gibbs the Gibbs was a "free" sample to my Korth revolver. the Weapon Shield, i bought after watching several videos on it's ability to cut down wear on metal parts. the Hoppes, well, cuz Hoppes was more pronounced on the shelf at...
www.thearmorylife.com www.thearmorylife.com

I usually use Hoppe's oil.
For long term storage I'll use a grease like TW-25.
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yeah, that's it, thanks

i was rushed to leave the house to get in line at the range, and beat out the guy that cuts the line.....

i hate line cutters.

while i was at the door this morning a guy that was in the navy, and something like 40+ years of gun ownership, recommended Mobil 1.

i told him flat out, "you're like the 47,000 th person to have said Mobil 1".....

so, on the way home, i stopped at wally's world, and got a quart.

i already had "some" at the house, but that is for the snow blower's engine.

so i'm gonna have to try Mobil 1, on a "few" guns, jot it down in the gun diary, and track that.
 
Bassbob said:
Oil soaks in and oil evaporates. Do the surfaces look and feel slick ? If you can see oil on your gun you are using WAY too much oil.
I use weapon Shield ( among others) and have no problems. Even grabbing an AR out of a safe going straight up the range and dumping 400 rounds through it without extra lubrication.

Maybe you should consider synthetic motor oil. Mobil 1 isn’t as good as it used to be but Castrol is great stuff. And use lubriplate on anything that slides.
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dry as a bone.......and no slickness.

as far as "using too much oil"........that's what confuses me....some other sites say 1911's run better, "wet"

now, mind you, none of my guns are dripping wet, but yes, i can always "see" a film of oil on the rails, and in the barrel.

but today, this G-17 ticked me off, being bone dry.

the Kimber and G-17, were both used back in November, only a few days apart..

then last week, and today, both guns were taken for some range time, so we are talking all of about 5 months since last used..??

Kimber, i can see the lube, the FP-10, the G-17, bone dry, and FP-10 was used as well.......

so i dunno........i will say this much, i will try this Mobil 1 on a "few" guns, and track this

if all else fails or confuses me more............good old Hoppe's 9, is still in my basement cabinet.
 
shanneba said:
I think this is the old thread you were looking for-
www.thearmorylife.com

Have any of you run into this situation?

ok, so in my stock of lubes, i have Weapon Shield, Hoppes, and Gibbs the Gibbs was a "free" sample to my Korth revolver. the Weapon Shield, i bought after watching several videos on it's ability to cut down wear on metal parts. the Hoppes, well, cuz Hoppes was more pronounced on the shelf at...
www.thearmorylife.com www.thearmorylife.com

I usually use Hoppe's oil.
For long term storage I'll use a grease like TW-25.
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ues, i use EWG (slip 2000) for my Sig 1911, as Sig recommends grease on the rails, and oil everyplace else.

but all my other 1911's FORBID grease on their guns as per the owners manuals.......

thanks again for finding that thread.!!
 
Belt Fed said:
Been using it for years on everything.
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and thank you...

and the "great oil debate of the century" which most likely started in the last century, continues.

who says "motor oil" is not good for guns, and who uses it cuz it's great and cheaper than gun oil amuses me.

to the point of trying to pull no hair, outta my bald head.

everyone has an opinion, and maybe a room full of lubes.

just as nearly everyone has a roomful of holsters.

if i resort back to Hoppes 9 oil, at least the Mobil 1 won't go to waste, it's been my prefered engine oil for my Toro, for about 30 years now.
 
I use Lucas Oil Extreme Duty gun oil to lube, I can take apart a gun that I lubed a few months back and its still there, oil will evaporate over time no matter which brand your using, but anytime I go out to shoot I always put more oil on just in case, I don't count on it to still be there after some time. It's not all that hard to take your gun apart and lube it again, grease will still be there if you choose this route.
 
Annihilator said:
I use Lucas Oil Extreme Duty gun oil to lube, I can take apart a gun that I lubed a few months back and its still there, oil will evaporate over time no matter which brand your using, but anytime I go out to shoot I always put more oil on just in case, I don't count on it to still be there after some time. It's not all that hard to take your gun apart and lube it again, grease will still be there if you choose this route.
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yes, grease on my self defense gun, the same that i use for the Sig.
 
Annihilator said:
I use Lucas Oil Extreme Duty gun oil to lube, I can take apart a gun that I lubed a few months back and its still there, oil will evaporate over time no matter which brand your using, but anytime I go out to shoot I always put more oil on just in case, I don't count on it to still be there after some time. It's not all that hard to take your gun apart and lube it again, grease will still be there if you choose this route.
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well, interesting. i did look up "oil evaporation", and that frankly surprised me, that it does, over time. heat will hasten it, but my basement is cool and dry, and in the summer time, i have the dehumidifier running. but still, way cooler than outside in the broiling heat. and in car engines, of course this does happen, which is why many engines have "oil coolers", my motorbike had one in fact. (dealer installed)

if the Mobil 1 does not "last" say at least 6 months for a gun (the G-17 is the test dummy), then i might go the grease route, as i actually have the EWG, and an automotive "red" heavy duty grease, used for the door hinges. so i got plenty of each.

i just didn't ever consider evaporation of the gun oil(s) in a cool, dry place.

one more thing however, "if grease is a better way, then why do all my 1911 guns forbid it's use, with the exception being, the Sig"..???? (per owners manuals)
 
Old_Me said:
well, interesting. i did look up "oil evaporation", and that frankly surprised me, that it does, over time. heat will hasten it, but my basement is cool and dry, and in the summer time, i have the dehumidifier running. but still, way cooler than outside in the broiling heat. and in car engines, of course this does happen, which is why many engines have "oil coolers", my motorbike had one in fact. (dealer installed)

if the Mobil 1 does not "last" say at least 6 months for a gun (the G-17 is the test dummy), then i might go the grease route, as i actually have the EWG, and an automotive "red" heavy duty grease, used for the door hinges. so i got plenty of each.

i just didn't ever consider evaporation of the gun oil(s) in a cool, dry place.

one more thing however, "if grease is a better way, then why do all my 1911 guns forbid it's use, with the exception being, the Sig"..???? (per owners manuals)
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Well, grease will attract dirt and powder residue. I just oil my gun when I get to the range, no problem for me, only takes about a minute
 
Annihilator said:
Well, grease will attract dirt and powder residue. I just oil my gun when I get to the range, no problem for me, only takes about a minute
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yeah, i got into that habit as well, when it's been a "few"months since the last range visit. if only to verify it is "wet".

i try to rotate the guns in a semblance of order, for the range, but sometimes, i go back to the range (or club) with the same gun later in the week.

at least then, i already know, it had been oiled.

the range does not allow taking guns apart.

the club has a "cleaning room".
 
Onewolf426 said:
I use grease on the rails and barrel, oil other parts. Has not let me down yet. I currently use Slide Glide. Lite for my sub compact EDCs, and the standard for the bigger boys, including the 1911.
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i might have to do that as well.

as the Sig, i only have to grease the rails (as per thier recommendation) and oil the rest.

that will at least "cut down" on my having to field strip before going to the range.

first, i will "see" how using Mobil 1 works.
 
Old_Me said:
first, i will "see" how using Mobil 1 works.
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Now if you store the gun for a while the oil may not be on the rails much, any oil will need replenishing after a long sit. I'm taking 3 guns this morning to shoot and all them have been sitting a long time. i will re oil them up before shooting. it's nothing to break down a semi pistol and sometimes you can just pull the slide back and oil the rail grooves there.
 
Belt Fed said:
Now if you store the gun for a while the oil may not be on the rails much, any oil will need replenishing after a long sit. I'm taking 3 guns this morning to shoot and all them have been sitting a long time. i will re oil them up before shooting. it's nothing to break down a semi pistol and sometimes you can just pull the slide back and oil the rail grooves there.
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"on average" all my guns sit for about 4 to 5 months until thier next range visit. in the beginning, i'd take maybe 3 guns at a time, and like maybe 100 rds each.

then the scamdemic, and super high prices on ammo, so i cut down to 1 gun, and 1 box of ammo

so i am still into that habit.

not only for the scamdemic reasons and pricings, but dang, carrying 3 heavy guns and 47 pounds of ammo is back breaking.
 
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