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Once Bitten, Twice Shy. Why did I buy another Taurus?

wmg1299

wmg1299

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As a fan of affordable guns, I've purchased a few Taurus products over the years. The extractor on my PT709 Slim failed after 500 rounds, but Taurus replaced the extractor under warranty at no charge. My PT92 suffered from a defective mag release and then the takedown latch broke. Again, Taurus repaired the gun under warranty. These experiences kept me from buying Taurus products for a few years.

I thought things had changed when the TX22 turned out to be the most reliable .22 LR semi-auto I've ever owned. That experience convinced me to buy an 856 revolver, which has been flawless. I'm a fan of .22 Magnum and was intrigued by the new 8-shot 942 snub-nose revolvers. I bought one, and the cylinder locked up after 50 rounds.

When I called Taurus I received a message saying, "All of our agents are busy. Please call back at a later time." There is not even an option to leave a message. I got this message multiple times throughout the day. I'm not giving up on making them repair or replace my 942, but this has to be the final straw.

The Taurus models I've recently purchased all offered something that no other manufacturer did for anywhere near the price at the time (16 round mags in a .22 LR semi-auto pistol, 6-shot J-Frame sized .38 Special, and an 8-shot .22 Magnum snub-nose). I really need Springfield to start making revolvers and .22 caliber XD's.
 
wmg1299 said:
As a fan of affordable guns, I've purchased a few Taurus products over the years. The extractor on my PT709 Slim failed after 500 rounds, but Taurus replaced the extractor under warranty at no charge. My PT92 suffered from a defective mag release and then the takedown latch broke. Again, Taurus repaired the gun under warranty. These experiences kept me from buying Taurus products for a few years.

I thought things had changed when the TX22 turned out to be the most reliable .22 LR semi-auto I've ever owned. That experience convinced me to buy an 856 revolver, which has been flawless. I'm a fan of .22 Magnum and was intrigued by the new 8-shot 942 snub-nose revolvers. I bought one, and the cylinder locked up after 50 rounds.

When I called Taurus I received a message saying, "All of our agents are busy. Please call back at a later time." There is not even an option to leave a message. I got this message multiple times throughout the day. I'm not giving up on making them repair or replace my 942, but this has to be the final straw.

The Taurus models I've recently purchased all offered something that no other manufacturer did for anywhere near the price at the time (16 round mags in a .22 LR semi-auto pistol, 6-shot J-Frame sized .38 Special, and an 8-shot .22 Magnum snub-nose). I really need Springfield to start making revolvers and .22 caliber XD's.
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Was wondering same thing about SA making revolvers the other day. Not 1st time thought either.
 
wmg1299 said:
As a fan of affordable guns, I've purchased a few Taurus products over the years. The extractor on my PT709 Slim failed after 500 rounds, but Taurus replaced the extractor under warranty at no charge. My PT92 suffered from a defective mag release and then the takedown latch broke. Again, Taurus repaired the gun under warranty. These experiences kept me from buying Taurus products for a few years.

I thought things had changed when the TX22 turned out to be the most reliable .22 LR semi-auto I've ever owned. That experience convinced me to buy an 856 revolver, which has been flawless. I'm a fan of .22 Magnum and was intrigued by the new 8-shot 942 snub-nose revolvers. I bought one, and the cylinder locked up after 50 rounds.

When I called Taurus I received a message saying, "All of our agents are busy. Please call back at a later time." There is not even an option to leave a message. I got this message multiple times throughout the day. I'm not giving up on making them repair or replace my 942, but this has to be the final straw.

The Taurus models I've recently purchased all offered something that no other manufacturer did for anywhere near the price at the time (16 round mags in a .22 LR semi-auto pistol, 6-shot J-Frame sized .38 Special, and an 8-shot .22 Magnum snub-nose). I really need Springfield to start making revolvers and .22 caliber XD's.
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SA apparently made revolvers at one time? But states by Smith & Wesson as well?

Smith & Wesson Springfield Armory Bicentennial 625-4 Revolver | Rock Island Auction

Smith & Wesson Springfield Armory Bicentennial Model 625-4 Double Action Revolver with BoxRight side of barrel marked "ARMS FOR THE NATION". Springfield Armory emblem on right side of frame. With matching factory box, manual, and four half moon clips.
www.rockislandauction.com www.rockislandauction.com
 
BobM said:
SA apparently made revolvers at one time? But states by Smith & Wesson as well?

Smith & Wesson Springfield Armory Bicentennial 625-4 Revolver | Rock Island Auction

Smith & Wesson Springfield Armory Bicentennial Model 625-4 Double Action Revolver with BoxRight side of barrel marked "ARMS FOR THE NATION". Springfield Armory emblem on right side of frame. With matching factory box, manual, and four half moon clips.
www.rockislandauction.com www.rockislandauction.com
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I believe that was a custom revolver. To my knowledge Springfield Armory has not made a revolver at all. Now I’m not 100% on this so I will reach out to verify and get back to you. However if Springfield ever did get into the revolver game I’d definitely jump on that train as well. I’d also love to see them make Shotguns as well.
 
wmg1299 said:
As a fan of affordable guns, I've purchased a few Taurus products over the years. The extractor on my PT709 Slim failed after 500 rounds, but Taurus replaced the extractor under warranty at no charge. My PT92 suffered from a defective mag release and then the takedown latch broke. Again, Taurus repaired the gun under warranty. These experiences kept me from buying Taurus products for a few years.

I thought things had changed when the TX22 turned out to be the most reliable .22 LR semi-auto I've ever owned. That experience convinced me to buy an 856 revolver, which has been flawless. I'm a fan of .22 Magnum and was intrigued by the new 8-shot 942 snub-nose revolvers. I bought one, and the cylinder locked up after 50 rounds.

When I called Taurus I received a message saying, "All of our agents are busy. Please call back at a later time." There is not even an option to leave a message. I got this message multiple times throughout the day. I'm not giving up on making them repair or replace my 942, but this has to be the final straw.

The Taurus models I've recently purchased all offered something that no other manufacturer did for anywhere near the price at the time (16 round mags in a .22 LR semi-auto pistol, 6-shot J-Frame sized .38 Special, and an 8-shot .22 Magnum snub-nose). I really need Springfield to start making revolvers and .22 caliber XD's.
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i had the Taurus G3c, and it ran flawlessly, but i sold it, once i got my Hellcat.

i currently own a Taurus 856 UL, and it's as flawless as the G3c was, and i plan on keeping that 856 UL for a while.

i am still rather new (only 16 months into this) sport/hobby, and as such i have no experience with former Taurus firearms that were problematic.

i think that if a firearms company wants to expand thier product line(s), they need to tow the line(s) on what they offer now, otherwise, the death knell is only a short trip down that path.
 
KLGunner said:
I believe that was a custom revolver. To my knowledge Springfield Armory has not made a revolver at all. Now I’m not 100% on this so I will reach out to verify and get back to you. However if Springfield ever did get into the revolver game I’d definitely jump on that train as well. I’d also love to see them make Shotguns as well.
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So I have confirmed Springfield has not made a revolver.
 
BobM said:
SA apparently made revolvers at one time? But states by Smith & Wesson as well?

Smith & Wesson Springfield Armory Bicentennial 625-4 Revolver | Rock Island Auction

Smith & Wesson Springfield Armory Bicentennial Model 625-4 Double Action Revolver with BoxRight side of barrel marked "ARMS FOR THE NATION". Springfield Armory emblem on right side of frame. With matching factory box, manual, and four half moon clips.
www.rockislandauction.com www.rockislandauction.com
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Not the same Springfield Armory.

The current Springfield just has the name; the one mentioned above was the US Gov’t facility in Springfield, Massachusetts, that produced such military arms as Civil War muskets, trapdoor .45-70’s, .30-40 Krags, 1903 pattern rifles, M1 Garands, and some early 1911’s. It closed after WW2, and the current company bought the rights to the name in the 1980’s(?).
 
HansGruber said:
Not the same Springfield Armory.

The current Springfield just has the name; the one mentioned above was the US Gov’t facility in Springfield, Massachusetts, that produced such military arms as Civil War muskets, trapdoor .45-70’s, .30-40 Krags, 1903 pattern rifles, M1 Garands, and some early 1911’s. It closed after WW2, and the current company bought the rights to the name in the 1980’s(?).
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.....And the SA revolver displayed is manufactured by S & W for Springfield Armory's Bicentennial?
1968 was end of 1st SA and beginning of 2nd SA in name only.

Use of the name "Springfield Armory"​

"Following the closure of the U.S. Army Springfield Armory in 1968, the L. H. Gun Co. of Devine, Texas, was renamed Springfield Armory, Inc. to capitalize on the name recognition. There is no affiliation or licensing between the original Springfield Armory and Springfield Armory, Inc., despite a timeline on the commercial website of the latter that includes the history of the former.[15] The company's products include M1911 pistols and the M1A rifle series."

en.wikipedia.org

Springfield Armory - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 
HansGruber said:
Not the same Springfield Armory.

The current Springfield just has the name; the one mentioned above was the US Gov’t facility in Springfield, Massachusetts, that produced such military arms as Civil War muskets, trapdoor .45-70’s, .30-40 Krags, 1903 pattern rifles, M1 Garands, and some early 1911’s. It closed after WW2, and the current company bought the rights to the name in the 1980’s(?).
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...yeah, similar situation (if roughly) to Rock Isl Armory becoming a brand made at a long-established facility in the Philippines. Brand name purchase.
 
Both of my TX22s have (knock on wood) been completely trouble free and have certainly left me with a positive impression of Taurus. But when I decided to buy a revolver I kept hearing the whispers in the wind about various issues with their revolvers with fit and finish. I eventually settled on a Ruger SP101 because it had very good reviews. I changed up the grips, sight and added a lighter mainspring and I’m really liking it. A positive start down the revolver road.
 
KLGunner said:
I believe that was a custom revolver. To my knowledge Springfield Armory has not made a revolver at all. Now I’m not 100% on this so I will reach out to verify and get back to you. However if Springfield ever did get into the revolver game I’d definitely jump on that train as well. I’d also love to see them make Shotguns as well.
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Well, Kimber got into the revolver world. Don't see a reason why SA couldn't. Probably a tough market to crack with S&W and Ruger dominating, but might be worth the shot (no pun intended 😁). Kimber went all out and has put out a very high end product. A question would be, would SA get into a mid price market, a very high end market or produce something of each? Kind of like their Saint, Saint Victor and Saint Edge lines?
 
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