Question on a striker deactivate switch…..

[Annihilator]

On, my new Beretta Apex has what’s called a striker deactivation switch on the side of frame, according to the manual, you use this to release the striker before disassembly instead of pulling the trigger, ok, this is where I quite don’t understand, the manual says you can dry fire this gun in moderation but not extensive, isn’t using the switch to release the striker the same as dry firing, or am I just not completely understanding how this works. This is the first pistol I have come across in 40+ years of firearms that has it.

 

[ECS686]

Not knowing the inside of a Beretta I would only be presuming however they all are close to Glocks (depending if their stiker is cocked vs the Glocks which is not fully cocked)

That said it’s just an engineering part created to allow one an option. Much like the S&W M&P can be taken down by either a trigger pull OR takedown tool flipping the yellow lever down (you can take down models with the mag disconnect you just have to have the takedown lever down put slide forward ensuring an EMPTY magazine is in it pull trigger with muzzle in SAFE direction and it comes off like a Glock)

Some folks get bent out of shape about pulling a trigger but safe direction isn’t that hard to comprehend
as far as the factory recommends not to dry fire never really heard that for Centerfire striker designs

Sort of the opposite of the striker control device for Glocks as folks want an extra bit of assurance when reholstering

 

[SimonRL]

Anni, if you think about how often you ate likely to disassemble the gun over its lifetime I would think it would qualify as far less than moderate because each time is effectively one pull. When they discuss dry firing I’m sure they are talking about practice with multiple 50+ pulls at the very least. As you know there are people who practice with thousands of dry fire pulls. I’m pretty sure those are the people the lawyers are talking to.

 

[Annihilator]

Anni, if you think about how often you ate likely to disassemble the gun over its lifetime I would think it would qualify as far less than moderate because each time is effectively one pull. When they discuss dry firing I’m sure they are talking about practice with multiple 50+ pulls at the very least. As you know there are people who practice with thousands of dry fire pulls. I’m pretty sure those are the people the lawyers are talking to.

Yea, I’m not worried about dry firing it, was just curious as is it the same, meaning dry firing it as using the switch, isn’t this basically the same thing? That’s my question

“you ate likely to disassemble”

Yea, I ate likely…….
Gotcha!…..

 

[Old_Me]

On, my new Beretta Apex has what’s called a striker deactivation switch on the side of frame, according to the manual, you use this to release the striker before disassembly instead of pulling the trigger, ok, this is where I quite don’t understand, the manual says you can dry fire this gun in moderation but not extensive, isn’t using the switch to release the striker the same as dry firing, or am I just not completely understanding how this works. This is the first pistol I have come across in 40+ years of firearms that has it.

be darned if i know....i only have the 92 FS's......and i cannot "see" any switch on any pictures on Beretta..

however, can that "switch" be like say what a S&W has, which is like a tiny lever, inside the magwell?

if i lower that tiny lever, i can then remove the slide, with out pulling the trigger....

here, the lever is green, and in the up position, and i can not dry fire

and here, the lever is down, allowing me to remove the slide without pulling the trigger, and dry firing as well

 

[Annihilator]

be darned if i know....i only have the 92 FS's......and i cannot "see" any switch on any pictures on Beretta..

however, can that "switch" be like say what a S&W has, which is like a tiny lever, inside the magwell?

if i lower that tiny lever, i can then remove the slide, with out pulling the trigger....

here, the lever is green, and in the up position, and i can not dry fire

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and here, the lever is down, allowing me to remove the slide without pulling the trigger, and dry firing as well

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The switch is just a small hole on the one side that you take a ball pen and push in on it after you pull slide back about a 1/4” inch or so

 

[Old_Me]

The switch is just a small hole on the one side that you take a ball pen and push in on it after you pull slide back about a 1/4” inch or so

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when i saw that originally, i thought it was a connecting/holding pin, like on a Glock

but i think its like my S&W, i have to push down that lever in my pics, all you have to do is push that button...

frankly, until you posted your question, i never knew i could also disconnect my striker for dry firing as well....

i was told it was to remove the slide with out pulling the trigger.

 

[rcurtner]

Don't have a clue. Still pi**ed off about Beretta replacing the 1911, think around 1985.

 

[KillerFord1977]

On, my new Beretta Apex has what’s called a striker deactivation switch on the side of frame, according to the manual, you use this to release the striker before disassembly instead of pulling the trigger, ok, this is where I quite don’t understand, the manual says you can dry fire this gun in moderation but not extensive, isn’t using the switch to release the striker the same as dry firing, or am I just not completely understanding how this works. This is the first pistol I have come across in 40+ years of firearms that has it.

If it were a Sig, you could deactivate the striker by just dropping it

 

[Annihilator]

Don't have a clue. Still pi**ed off about Beretta replacing the 1911, think around 1985.

Yep, 1985, took me about 10 years before I ever bought a 92FS

 

[Belt Fed]

That is some home safety BS, when activated the pistol can't be fired. kinda like a trigger lock without the lock.

 

[Annihilator]

That is some home safety BS, when activated the pistol can't be fired. kinda like a trigger lock without the lock.

No, it’s not a safety, it’s just a way to release the striker without pulling the trigger for disassembling, that’s all it’s for, nothing else, my question was isn’t it the same as pulling the trigger before disassembling, like dry firing the gun without pulling any trigger.

 

[Belt Fed]

Well shoot, yer gonna make me break mine out again and look at that again.lol

 

[Annihilator]

Well shoot, yer gonna make me break mine out again and look at that again.lol

 

[Bear007]

Anni, I don't have this gun but it sounds like it's time to test it's funtion.

If you have a snapcap place a small piece of electrical tape across the back where the sticker would hit. Place it in the handgun and close the action. Push the Striker Deactivation pin. Eject the snapcap and check out the tape to see if the sticker actually hit the snapcap, or not???

If it did, your thoughts are correct, same as pulling the trigger.

If it did not, then it seems to be a method of releasing the striker while simultaneously blocking it from striking the bullet.

 

[Annihilator]

Anni, I don't have this gun but it sounds like it's time to test it's funtion.

If you have a snapcap place a small piece of electrical tape across the back where the sticker would hit. Place it in the handgun and close the action. Push the Striker Deactivation pin. Eject the snapcap and check out the tape to see if the sticker actually hit the snapcap, or not???

If it did, your thoughts are correct, same as pulling the trigger.

If it did not, then it seems to be a method of releasing the striker while simultaneously blocking it from striking the bullet.

Thanks, that’s a great ideal, appreciate it, never thought of that. I’ll give it a go tonight

 

[Annihilator]

Anni, I don't have this gun but it sounds like it's time to test it's funtion.

If you have a snapcap place a small piece of electrical tape across the back where the sticker would hit. Place it in the handgun and close the action. Push the Striker Deactivation pin. Eject the snapcap and check out the tape to see if the sticker actually hit the snapcap, or not???

If it did, your thoughts are correct, same as pulling the trigger.

If it did not, then it seems to be a method of releasing the striker while simultaneously blocking it from striking the bullet.

Ok, I tried what you said and it DOES NOT hit the snap cap when you use the deactivation switch, you just hear a faint click, now when you pull the trigger, it’s a loud click and you can feel it, I think the striker is not fully cocked when you cycle the slide, and the striker gets fully cocked when you actually pull the trigger like on other pistols that have the striker, thanks again for the ideal!!

 

[Bear007]

Ok, I tried what you said and it DOES NOT hit the snap cap when you use the deactivation switch, you just hear a faint click, now when you pull the trigger, it’s a loud click and you can feel it, I think the striker is not fully cocked when you cycle the slide, and the striker gets fully cocked when you actually pull the trigger like on other pistols that have the striker, thanks again for the ideal!!

Ok. At any rate it's a de-cocker! Now you know, life is good.