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Range rept: CQB and Garrison

TidalWave

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Got to the range with my new Wilson CQB and my semi-new Garrison (200rds by today?). Here goes:

Conditions:
Sunny after last nights squall.
Cold; and no gloves. Breezy.
Waited til early afternoon - didn’t help temps much, only put sun into my eyes (bad trade off :/ ).
Note: Target stand lanes were all taken, so I adapted and taped targets between hanging plates on another lanes. (I rarely get the ‘good’ lanes, and last six months contented myself with clanging metal, from 14+ inch hanging disks to torso-size metal uprights. Lot of fun but doesn’t help analyzing problems. Need to research me some portable/folding paper stands to take along every time).

Ammo: FMJ 230gr only. Ran S&B for the Garrison; Sig Elite Perf. for the Wilson.
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Started with Garrison; 5 shots; 40 feet
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Left/low and a low flyer


Next, 5 more at 30ft (same target)7DFBB88F-90C0-4A70-A25F-62F9D807C3B2.jpeg
Hitting same gen area; note left edge flyer

I shot once more with Garrison; a tighter group from 25ft. But nothing good. Finally rang torso metal stands with one mag from 45ft.
Notable: NO FTFS/FTEs this time! (One or other had happened a couple times all prev range days). I eased off the lube too, since it’s past break-in period (?).

CQB:
Shot like a dream! Only hiccup: slide did not lock open at end of the first mag. Put it down to the mag, not pistol. It’s also entirely possible I had my thumb slightly over the slide lock; CQB with it’s high trigger guard undercut is a bit diff feel from all my other 1911 experiences. And my small hands. Did not happen again though.

New target; 40 then 30 ft. Forgot to get pic of first 5 shots 🙄😖
So this is 10; nothing off the target.
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A while later (think I took a break and shot metal torsos :) ) 30ft.
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Note: target did blow around some in the breeze.
There’s other pics, and I hope I’ve gotten these few in the right order.

My problems:
- Getting older and unsteadier. Probably need new glasses - it’s been 2 yrs. Bottom line: can’t seem to get a tight group anymore 🙄
- Hitting left & low consistently (I honestly had thought the Garrison sights were off a bit; I see now by using paper targets that it’s definitely me). This finally explains where my shots were going with the smaller hanging/falling plates.


Any advice/ideas about the ‘left’ problem would be appreciated. By the way, my younger days were always rifle/shotgun focused. Owned a pistol since 1988 (BHP; added a glock in the 90s) & always 9milly but only got serious about it in last 4 yrs. First 1911 .45: RIA GI about 3.5 yrs ago.

It was a good day anyway and while I do wish CQBs FO was bigger like Ronins, the green turned out good.
Regardless, CQB was pretty much flawless on arrival and in someone else’s hands I bet it’d be a machine!

Thanks for taking the time to read this, and any 1911 tips you have from what you can see here…
Regards,
robbie
 
Got to the range with my new Wilson CQB and my semi-new Garrison (200rds by today?). Here goes:

Conditions:
Sunny after last nights squall.
Cold; and no gloves. Breezy.
Waited til early afternoon - didn’t help temps much, only put sun into my eyes (bad trade off :/ ).
Note: Target stand lanes were all taken, so I adapted and taped targets between hanging plates on another lanes. (I rarely get the ‘good’ lanes, and last six months contented myself with clanging metal, from 14+ inch hanging disks to torso-size metal uprights. Lot of fun but doesn’t help analyzing problems. Need to research me some portable/folding paper stands to take along every time).

Ammo: FMJ 230gr only. Ran S&B for the Garrison; Sig Elite Perf. for the Wilson.
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Started with Garrison; 5 shots; 40 feet
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Left/low and a low flyer


Next, 5 more at 30ft (same target)View attachment 23019
Hitting same gen area; note left edge flyer

I shot once more with Garrison; a tighter group from 25ft. But nothing good. Finally rang torso metal stands with one mag from 45ft.
Notable: NO FTFS/FTEs this time! (One or other had happened a couple times all prev range days). I eased off the lube too, since it’s past break-in period (?).

CQB:
Shot like a dream! Only hiccup: slide did not lock open at end of the first mag. Put it down to the mag, not pistol. It’s also entirely possible I had my thumb slightly over the slide lock; CQB with it’s high trigger guard undercut is a bit diff feel from all my other 1911 experiences. And my small hands. Did not happen again though.

New target; 40 then 30 ft. Forgot to get pic of first 5 shots 🙄😖
So this is 10; nothing off the target.
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A while later (think I took a break and shot metal torsos :) ) 30ft.
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Note: target did blow around some in the breeze.
There’s other pics, and I hope I’ve gotten these few in the right order.

My problems:
- Getting older and unsteadier. Probably need new glasses - it’s been 2 yrs. Bottom line: can’t seem to get a tight group anymore 🙄
- Hitting left & low consistently (I honestly had thought the Garrison sights were off a bit; I see now by using paper targets that it’s definitely me). This finally explains where my shots were going with the smaller hanging/falling plates.


Any advice/ideas about the ‘left’ problem would be appreciated. By the way, my younger days were always rifle/shotgun focused. Owned a pistol since 1988 (BHP; added a glock in the 90s) & always 9milly but only got serious about it in last 4 yrs. First 1911 .45: RIA GI about 3.5 yrs ago.

It was a good day anyway and while I do wish CQBs FO was bigger like Ronins, the green turned out good.
Regardless, CQB was pretty much flawless on arrival and in someone else’s hands I bet it’d be a machine!

Thanks for taking the time to read this, and any 1911 tips you have from what you can see here…
Regards,
robbie
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I’ll shoot low left if I dont rely on muscle memory and just “shoot”.
I have certain pistols that require me to change my grip a little or I'll be off especially if I haven't used that certain pistol in a while.

That's why I regularly practice with my CCW often.

Recoil anticipation is a very common also for some people and they don't even realize it. There's been multiple occasions where I take someone to the range and after a mag I'll tell them that they were anticipating recoil and they deny it to the fullest so I'll load a mag for them and slip in a snap cap to show them how it happens.
 
I have certain pistols that require me to change my grip a little or I'll be off especially if I haven't used that certain pistol in a while.

That's why I regularly practice with my CCW often.

Recoil anticipation is a very common also for some people and they don't even realize it. There's been multiple occasions where I take someone to the range and after a mag I'll tell them that they were anticipating recoil and they deny it to the fullest so I'll load a mag for them and slip in a snap cap to show them how it happens.
Have heard of that and I’m pretty sure I have the disease…
Not long ago I saw something about ‘wobbling’ during aim and a figure 8 drill you can do ( iirc ? ).
Funny but some time back I shot rather well at a pickup ‘competition’ with buddies, shooting across a varying field of targets (5 second limit). I think I do better moving than pinpoint aiming…
 
Have heard of that and I’m pretty sure I have the disease…
Not long ago I saw something about ‘wobbling’ during aim and a figure 8 drill you can do ( iirc ? ).
Funny but some time back I shot rather well at a pickup ‘competition’ with buddies, shooting across a varying field of targets (5 second limit). I think I do better moving than pinpoint aiming…
A long time ago I've found a good way for me to practice against recoil anticipation was to dry fire over and over squeezing the trigger very slowly until it broke while keeping the sights on the designated target. You don't need to rush the trigger for it to fire and a lot of people do this. If you have a laser on your pistol you can practice keeping the laser on a dedicated small target while you practice this technique and you'll see the progression from your anticipation to a steady hand squeezing the trigger with balance. When you get good at keep the pistol on target while doing this dry fire training you can increase the speed of your pull gradually until you don't even need to think about it.
 
Have heard of that and I’m pretty sure I have the disease…
Not long ago I saw something about ‘wobbling’ during aim and a figure 8 drill you can do ( iirc ? ).
Funny but some time back I shot rather well at a pickup ‘competition’ with buddies, shooting across a varying field of targets (5 second limit). I think I do better moving than pinpoint aiming…

You'll get it down good TW,
Knowing what's what is half the battle won.
 
Every time I shoot a new handgun for the first time I’m low left, I anticipate it and accept it, as I put more rounds through the gun I consistently bring my hits on target. The most important point to make is don’t get frustrated as that will amplify your off target hits. Calm and steady and get to know your gun.
Practice makes perfect.
 
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