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Rented a Hellcat last night

Peglegjoe

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So, I was at the range last night with a beginner friend. She's still trying various handguns - her first visit was a G17. Last night she tried the M&P Shield 2.0, the 365XL, my 1952 .38 Colt revolver, my XDs...and a Hellcat.

Naturally I had to try them all as well.

I'd used the M&P a lot when I was taking my handgun course so I didn't bother with that one. I tried the 365XL, and it felt small in my hand (I have fairly big paws). The Hellcat...I liked. I was familiar with it instantly since my EDC is the XDs. The weight wasn't bad, even with a full 13rd mag. LoveloveLOVE the sights. I fired it true, right from the start - I suppose since I'm used to the subcompact grip already, I wasn't dropping any shots like some folks report doing.

2 issues - and again, this is a rental gun that has been getting a LOT of use (although the range does do very good maintenance as soon as the guns return from the lanes).

First, the mag was a BIT*H to load. That spring was super-tight, or the lift plate was super crunchy, or something....12 was hard to feed, 13 was damn near impossible. My thumb still hurts. My XDs loads up like butter compared to that thing. But it was nice to run nearly 2x the rounds through the gun as my XDs, without a reload.

Second, and this manifested after we (combined) ran about 50 rounds through it, the slide started staying back, even mid-mag. It did it to her a bunch of times and I chalked it up to beginner/grip/learning. Then, it did it to me once. I handed it to the R.O., and it did it to him the first round he fired. It wasn't the usual-reported "the slide doesn't stay back after the last round", it was a mid-mag slide staying back, as if it was empty even though there were 7, or 9, or 3, more rounds in the mag. Could that have been a feed issue from that crunchy mag spring? Maybe. We were shooting Federal 115 FMJ that the range supplied (their gun, their ammo).

Overall? I really liked it. It felt natural to me, again, since my EDC is the XDs. Sights are great. Capacity is awesome. Weight, even fully loaded, didn't seem bad - but I wasn't able to strap it to my side as if it were holstered, while fully loaded, to compare to my XDs.

I'm glad I got to fire it. It put my mind at ease a bit - I no longer "have" to have one immediately. The capacity is nice, but overall it isn't different enough from my XDs that I feel compelled to grab the first one that comes available. Maybe that will change once my budget opens up a bit and I have some "extra" cash...but right now, I'm not anxious about "when can I have one?". Makes it easier to wait for accessories to catch up to Hellcat production, too.

On the way out for the night, on a lark, I asked to hold a 911 they had in the rental case, in .380. I was amazed - even with my big paws, it felt substantial in my hand (the 365XL felt like I was clutching a pencil by comparison). I may have to try one of those next visit, just as an option for backup, or for easier concealment in shorts-and-tee-shirt weather. She liked the feel of it as well. I'd have to get used to a thumb safety, but...
 
Thanks for the input. For someone who does not already own a XD, XDMod 2, or XDm, would it be a great purchase for their first compact concealed carry in your opinion?
I would think that some of the issues with what you experienced might be the break in period? Or possibly poor maintenance on the range renting it? I know where I am at when you rent a gun, you get it looking like no one has ever cleaned it. Dirty, no oil and kind of takes away from the true guns performance when it's properly maintained. This isn't saying that's the case in your experience. I am just wondering if it could be a factor?
 
The more I think on it, the more I think that's the case. The weapon was fine - no grit, slide moved freely, good trigger pull, good eject button, good slide release tab. This place takes good care of their guns. I - again, the more I think about it - suspect something was wrong with the mag itself. As hard (H-A-R-D; my left thumb is still nerve-tingling if I rub on it) as it was to load the thing...something was up in there. I really suspect a feed issue of some sort. I didn't think - or get the opportunity - to try another mag in the gun, but I'm willing to bet that was the issue.

As for a "first gun"...I'd support it.

IF.

My XDs is my first carry piece, and my first semi-auto pistol period. I'm a late bloomer, but I had the means and wanted to get my CCW before they became any more impossible to get in today's political climate.

The "if" is because every shooter is different; every hand is different; every physique is different. Try, try, try - explore options, check your comfort level, verify your accuracy.

I'd tried several full-frame pistols and a couple compacts as I was going through my CCW course, trying to decide which I wanted to get. They all "worked", but none were "it".

I sold motorcycles for years, and always told indecisive customers that "the right one will grab you by the neck when you see it, and you'll know." I'd tried the M&P; CZ; Sig; Glocks; Walther; S&W...a bunch of them, during my qualifying practices and my classes for the various licenses required by the People's Republik of Maryland. My live-fire qualification day was coming and I hadn't found "it" yet. I was a good shot with any of the ones I'd tried...but didn't instantly fall in love with anything. Weight. Size. Balance. Grip. Angle. Something was always...not 100%.

Day of my quals, I walked into the shop. They had a pair of XDs' there - polished, and gray. Polished had backstrap 1 (small); gray had backstrap 2 (large). Polished felt...OK to me. Liked it enough to try the gray one - and that's when it grabbed me by the throat. It FIT. Fell instantly to hand. Centered itself immediately. Balance. Angle. Grip. Controls.

They had me try it out on the range with some leftover ammo, right before quals - I put five rounds through 3 holes. I had them run my credit card for the purchase right before the live fire testing. Quals, I shot 4 targets, and scored (out of 150) 150, 148, 148, and 150. We work well together.

Like I said...the right one will grab you by the throat. Try them ALL - the right one may not be what you're expecting at all.
 
The more I think on it, the more I think that's the case. The weapon was fine - no grit, slide moved freely, good trigger pull, good eject button, good slide release tab. This place takes good care of their guns. I - again, the more I think about it - suspect something was wrong with the mag itself. As hard (H-A-R-D; my left thumb is still nerve-tingling if I rub on it) as it was to load the thing...something was up in there. I really suspect a feed issue of some sort. I didn't think - or get the opportunity - to try another mag in the gun, but I'm willing to bet that was the issue.

As for a "first gun"...I'd support it.

IF.

My XDs is my first carry piece, and my first semi-auto pistol period. I'm a late bloomer, but I had the means and wanted to get my CCW before they became any more impossible to get in today's political climate.

The "if" is because every shooter is different; every hand is different; every physique is different. Try, try, try - explore options, check your comfort level, verify your accuracy.

I'd tried several full-frame pistols and a couple compacts as I was going through my CCW course, trying to decide which I wanted to get. They all "worked", but none were "it".

I sold motorcycles for years, and always told indecisive customers that "the right one will grab you by the neck when you see it, and you'll know." I'd tried the M&P; CZ; Sig; Glocks; Walther; S&W...a bunch of them, during my qualifying practices and my classes for the various licenses required by the People's Republik of Maryland. My live-fire qualification day was coming and I hadn't found "it" yet. I was a good shot with any of the ones I'd tried...but didn't instantly fall in love with anything. Weight. Size. Balance. Grip. Angle. Something was always...not 100%.

Day of my quals, I walked into the shop. They had a pair of XDs' there - polished, and gray. Polished had backstrap 1 (small); gray had backstrap 2 (large). Polished felt...OK to me. Liked it enough to try the gray one - and that's when it grabbed me by the throat. It FIT. Fell instantly to hand. Centered itself immediately. Balance. Angle. Grip. Controls.

They had me try it out on the range with some leftover ammo, right before quals - I put five rounds through 3 holes. I had them run my credit card for the purchase right before the live fire testing. Quals, I shot 4 targets, and scored (out of 150) 150, 148, 148, and 150. We work well together.

Like I said...the right one will grab you by the throat. Try them ALL - the right one may not be what you're expecting at all.
"The sword always chooses its owner" 😎
 
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