Ruger SR1911 LW Commander — The Lightweight .45 ACP

[Talyn]

A lighter handgun is a compromise on most counts, but allows the shooter to carry a formidable, if lightweight, handgun. For many of us this means a Commander-length .45.

Ruger SR1911 LW Commander — The Lightweight .45 ACP

 

[deadduck357]

I have their all steel Commander and its a fine 1911.

 

[Old_Me]

i have the full size SR, very fine 1911 as well

 

[nmedge]

I had one but was really not impressed with it. Forgot what I sold it for.

 

[Annihilator]

I like there 1911’s, really neat how they incorporated the plunger tube in the frame, but I steer away from any 1911 that has a cast frame, seen quite a few crack over the years

 

[Talyn]

I like there 1911’s, really neat how they incorporated the plunger tube in the frame, but I steer away from any 1911 that has a cast frame, seen quite a few crack over the years

Properly-made cast frames can be as strong or stronger (post-93 Mk. III BHPs) than a forged frame.

Ruger's been doing cast frames for decades and they know how to do it.

 

[Annihilator]

Properly-made cast frames can be as strong or stronger (post-93 Mk. III BHPs) than a forged frame.

Ruger's been doing cast frames for decades and they know how to do it.

Yea, I know about Ruger’s castings, but on a 1911, I want forged, I have no problem with there revolvers though, just me on forged frames, seen a few cast ones crack, and witnessed a Auto Ordnance frame just come apart after 3 mags during a deputy’s qualifying, brand new gun using 230gr ball.

 

[Old_Me]

Yea, I know about Ruger’s castings, but on a 1911, I want forged, I have no problem with there revolvers though, just me on forged frames, seen a few cast ones crack, and witnessed a Auto Ordnance frame just come apart after 3 mags during a deputy’s qualifying, brand new gun using 230gr ball.

i thought i was going to see a gun explode...???..

what a rip off video.......

in any event, i fall into the crowd of people, where any one of my guns get to the range, then get put away (for a few weeks) then come back out again.

under more severe duty, like Military or LEO, then i'd say yes, forged all the way.

much like any of our personal vehicles, for maintenance suggests, there is a severe duty, and "normal" duty schedule to follow.

taxi cabs, Uber, Lyft, police vehicles come under "severe duty"...

us old timers or "normal people", would follow, "under normal conditions"

(for basic explanations of each)

 

[Annihilator]

i thought i was going to see a gun explode...???..

what a rip off video.......

in any event, i fall into the crowd of people, where any one of my guns get to the range, then get put away (for a few weeks) then come back out again.

under more severe duty, like Military or LEO, then i'd say yes, forged all the way.

much like any of our personal vehicles, for maintenance suggests, there is a severe duty, and "normal" duty schedule to follow.

taxi cabs, Uber, Lyft, police vehicles come under "severe duty"...

us old timers or "normal people", would follow, "under normal conditions"

(for basic explanations of each)

Yea, I wouldn’t shoot one long enough to have any issues either, but still, I would want a forged frame anyway, just me I guess.

 

[Bassbob]

Yea, I wouldn’t shoot one long enough to have any issues either, but still, I would want a forged frame anyway, just me I guess.

Not just you. I'm not talking about forged v cast with regards to the Ruger. I have never shot one, but I can tell you I will never buy a gun that I know is only good for occasional range trips. If I can't run the out of it with no issues it's going back or getting sold or given away.

 

[Annihilator]

Not just you. I'm not talking about forged v cast with regards to the Ruger. I have never shot one, but I can tell you I will never buy a gun that I know is only good for occasional range trips. If I can't run the out of it with no issues it's going back or getting sold or given away.

I don’t think you could actually hurt a Ruger 1911, I just have issues with cast frames, maybe I need to get one and shoot the snot out of it to prove to myself that there cast frames are ok…..

 

[Old_Me]

I don’t think you could actually hurt a Ruger 1911, I just have issues with cast frames, maybe I need to get one and shoot the snot out of it to prove to myself that there cast frames are ok…..

i think that like anything else, there is good and bad in any manufacturing process.

maybe back years ago, as in what the video mentioned, "air bubbles" may have been the issue that caused things to break, whether they be plastic or metals.

i think that todays metallurgy and reduction of "air bubbles" and void spaces are not so much a worry anymore.

in any event, it could be some time before people see that a casting can be every bit as well built as forged.

i look at it this way too...

i have "plastic" 45 ACP guns......

shouldn't "plastic" guns explode from the hard stresses of 45's..??

afterall, aren't they "injected molded" as well??

aren't there "air bubbles" or viods in that process as well??

yet people are buying "plastic" 45's, even i have 1 now, a G-30 and hopefully soon an S&W MP 45 ACP.

i have "confidence" in today's build process of casting metal, and "plastic", more so than i ever would have, IF i had started this sport/hobby, 20, 30, maybe 40 years ago, compared to todays improved processes.

let's not forget too, how did those cast frames explode, or crack.??

hot reloads..??

we have also all "seen" factory loads that have caused a few issues to....right..????

in the end, it is what it is, for personal experiences and opinions, then too, this debate can go on an on, with subjects like vehicles built back in the 50's, compared to today, with better oils, fuels, emissions systems, fuel milage, ride comfort, and more safety features to survive a crash, than ever before.

yet, someone who lost a family member in a crash back in the 70's, with far less safety features, still wouldn't think so.

 

[Annihilator]

i think that like anything else, there is good and bad in any manufacturing process.

maybe back years ago, as in what the video mentioned, "air bubbles" may have been the issue that caused things to break, whether they be plastic or metals.

i think that todays metallurgy and reduction of "air bubbles" and void spaces are not so much a worry anymore.

in any event, it could be some time before people see that a casting can be every bit as well built as forged.

i look at it this way too...

i have "plastic" 45 ACP guns......

shouldn't "plastic" guns explode from the hard stresses of 45's..??

afterall, aren't they "injected molded" as well??

aren't there "air bubbles" or viods in that process as well??

yet people are buying "plastic" 45's, even i have 1 now, a G-30 and hopefully soon an S&W MP 45 ACP.

i have "confidence" in today's build process of casting metal, and "plastic", more so than i ever would have, IF i had started this sport/hobby, 20, 30, maybe 40 years ago, compared to todays improved processes.

let's not forget too, how did those cast frames explode, or crack.??

hot reloads..??

we have also all "seen" factory loads that have caused a few issues to....right..????

in the end, it is what it is, for personal experiences and opinions, then too, this debate can go on an on, with subjects like vehicles built back in the 50's, compared to today, with better oils, fuels, emissions systems, fuel milage, ride comfort, and more safety features to survive a crash, than ever before.

yet, someone who lost a family member in a crash back in the 70's, with far less safety features, still wouldn't think so.

The Auto Ordnance 1911 was a new gun using new factory ammo, the frame just came apart in several pieces, the deputy was doing her qualification, I was there when this happened, I feel the same way about cast frames as you feel about plastic MSH’s.

 

[Old_Me]

that's right, don't be puttin' no dang plastic MSH's on MY 1911's...!!!!!!!!

the only difference here is, if the MSH "explodes" the gun might lock up, where as a cast frame, you might lose some fingers, making "finger lickin' chicken", next to impossible...

but one could "like thier stub"...?????

 

[Annihilator]

that's right, don't be puttin' no dang plastic MSH's on MY 1911's...!!!!!!!!

the only difference here is, if the MSH "explodes" the gun might lock up, where as a cast frame, you might lose some fingers, making "finger lickin' chicken", next to impossible...

but one could "like thier stub"...?????

Now I did have a AMT government model and a Charles Daily, very older model, both had cast frames, no issues and I shot the out of both of them, it’s just when I saw the Auto Ordnance come apart, made me double think on cast frames. All well, sorry Talyn for stepping on this thread, good link.

 

[Old_Me]

Now I did have a AMT government model and a Charles Daily, very older model, both had cast frames, no issues and I shot the out of both of them, it’s just when I saw the Auto Ordnance come apart, made me double think on cast frames. All well, sorry Talyn for stepping on this thread, good link.

i never even heard of auto ordinance, so i looked them up.

i wonder if it was a "bad batch" made that month/year, and all has been much better since??.

the only "exploded 1911's i have ever seen up to now, are the ones that the owner has been shooting hot load, or the rare factory ammo that was over-charged.

yeah, i'd not appreciate having that happen, maybe it was a "once in a blue moon event" that it did.???