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Old_Me

Old_Me

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yeah, took my buddy for him to get in some practice with his G-43, and i took my above mentioned 1911.

we both did ok, but, but i was disappointed in my practice.

oh well, another day i suppose

anyway, got my 1911 home, field stripped it, and the pin for the barrel lug fell out..???

never had this happen before to any 1911 that i have.

this 1911 has at least 775 rounds, according to my log book

so some searching, and i "see" where i'll have to stake the pin into the "feet"? of the barrel.

to be honest here, after reading the procedure, i didn't even take notice if the pin had been staked in the first place, or was it pressed in.???

the pics online fully show a "indented" staking of the pin area. i'll find out later today.

now, it's gonna be another expensive saturday..grocery shopping, then off to a couple of auto supply stores, even Lowes for

pointed punches, and feeler gauges.

too bad as a former mechanic, i sold away nearly all that i had in tools, only to purchase things again, over the years....

well over $30,000 in tools i had amassed as a mechanic......had everything one could ever need......(decades ago of course, at that outlay of cash)

oh well....another day in paradise i suppose..........

anyone else have the barrel lug pin fall out..??

and what did you do...??

repair yourself, go to a gunsmith...???
 
update:

i fixed it...the pin itself has stake imprints.

a whack with a new tool i did NOT have to buy, cuz i just found one (dang it) was all it took.

here is a pic from Midway, i didn't take any pics, but you might be able to see the punch mark in the pin itself.

in fact, this picture, shows 2 punch marks on the pin, mine only has 1 on each side.

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yeah, i bought a 3 piece Craftsman nail setting punch set.

when i went to put them away with the other sets of punches, duh.......there was one already sitting there, that i did not see before i left the house to go and buy the set...!!!!!!!

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the 3 piece set of punches, was about $9 at Lowes and i got a feeler gauge set at AutoZone for about $8.00
 
OM:
I realize u would know this already but for those that don’t:
The link pin merely being able to fall out (as in, there’s no other issue such as improper sizing or damage) doesn’t really impact anything other than being careful on disassembly/reassembly. The pin rests in the recess of the frame and is “walled in” so to speak once a 1911 is put back together.

All that said, I don’t think I’ve heard of a modern 1911 that didn’t have the pin fitted to where it stays in place.
 
Old_Me said:
yeah, took my buddy for him to get in some practice with his G-43, and i took my above mentioned 1911.

we both did ok, but, but i was disappointed in my practice.

oh well, another day i suppose

anyway, got my 1911 home, field stripped it, and the pin for the barrel lug fell out..???

never had this happen before to any 1911 that i have.

this 1911 has at least 775 rounds, according to my log book

so some searching, and i "see" where i'll have to stake the pin into the "feet"? of the barrel.

to be honest here, after reading the procedure, i didn't even take notice if the pin had been staked in the first place, or was it pressed in.???

the pics online fully show a "indented" staking of the pin area. i'll find out later today.

now, it's gonna be another expensive saturday..grocery shopping, then off to a couple of auto supply stores, even Lowes for

pointed punches, and feeler gauges.

too bad as a former mechanic, i sold away nearly all that i had in tools, only to purchase things again, over the years....

well over $30,000 in tools i had amassed as a mechanic......had everything one could ever need......(decades ago of course, at that outlay of cash)

oh well....another day in paradise i suppose..........

anyone else have the barrel lug pin fall out..??

and what did you do...??

repair yourself, go to a gunsmith...???
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Yea, that can happen if the stake didn’t take, had an older Colt do that before, no biggie, just a pain, glad you got it fixed, fairly easy fix. Now on my RO Operator, I took the grips off and to my surprise, one of the grip screw bushings was cross threaded from factory, thankfully now a days there made of aluminum, I just took my time to remove it so as to not mess up the threads in the frame and replaced it myself, stuff does happen
 
Annihilator said:
Yea, that can happen if the stake didn’t take, had an older Colt do that before, no biggie, just a pain, glad you got it fixed, fairly easy fix. Now on my RO Operator, I took the grips off and to my surprise, one of the grip screw bushings was cross threaded from factory, thankfully now a days there made of aluminum, I just took my time to remove it so as to not mess up the threads in the frame and replaced it myself, stuff does happen
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i will "try" some small repairs if i can. i'll look it over, size it up, and give it to old college try.

i was taking with the manager this morning at the bait/gun store, he said the owner can do it if i have a problem.

i'm just glad that i had "some" tools here......but the majority of them sold off.

although now i wonder if my OTC ball joint press (if i still had it) would have worked...???

Ball Joint Service Kit | Ball Joint Tool | OTC Tools

The OTC 7249 Ball Joint Service Kit includes ball joint tools for removing and installing press-fit parts. Contains 3 receiver tubes.
www.otctools.com www.otctools.com
 
Old_Me said:
i will "try" some small repairs if i can. i'll look it over, size it up, and give it to old college try.

i was taking with the manager this morning at the bait/gun store, he said the owner can do it if i have a problem.

i'm just glad that i had "some" tools here......but the majority of them sold off.

although now i wonder if my OTC ball joint press (if i still had it) would have worked...???

Ball Joint Service Kit | Ball Joint Tool | OTC Tools

The OTC 7249 Ball Joint Service Kit includes ball joint tools for removing and installing press-fit parts. Contains 3 receiver tubes.
www.otctools.com www.otctools.com
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FYI after many rounds through a 1911, the ejector may also get loose, no biggie, it’s pinned in and won’t come off, just a nuisance, now if your plunger tube assembly gets loose, that needs fixed, Brownells has this staking tool, but it seldom works, gunsmith will need to fix it, these are just an FYI.
 
Annihilator said:
FYI after many rounds through a 1911, the ejector may also get loose, no biggie, it’s pinned in and won’t come off, just a nuisance, now if your plunger tube assembly gets loose, that needs fixed, Brownells has this staking tool, but it seldom works, gunsmith will need to fix it, these are just an FYI.
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yeah, long ago when i was first gathering 1911 info, (and before i knew of this site), many at various 1911 forums had mentioned some 1911 tools, which i have only a few,like files, sight pusher, roll pin punches, etc,etc, but no plunger tool yet.

given that i have like 12, 1911's, i am still on the fence to invest in any more specialty tools, in favor to a trip to a gunsmith.

i guess in "some respect" at the very least, my Ruger SR 1911 plunger tube will never come loose, as you know, it's part of the frame.

and as long as that never gets damaged, it should last a "lifetime"?
 
Old_Me said:
yeah, long ago when i was first gathering 1911 info, (and before i knew of this site), many at various 1911 forums had mentioned some 1911 tools, which i have only a few,like files, sight pusher, roll pin punches, etc,etc, but no plunger tool yet.

given that i have like 12, 1911's, i am still on the fence to invest in any more specialty tools, in favor to a trip to a gunsmith.

i guess in "some respect" at the very least, my Ruger SR 1911 plunger tube will never come loose, as you know, it's part of the frame.

and as long as that never gets damaged, it should last a "lifetime"?
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Yea, Ruger did it right, yea the staking tool for the plunger tube very seldom actually works, been there done that, now the Sig and your S&W, the extractor are external, not much you do with those, with the spring they have, kind of self adjusting for the tension and such
 
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