SAINT MLOK OPTICS
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HansGruber
Ronin
Can’t go wrong with Aimpoint. Choose the one you like.
KillerFord1977
SAINT
I run aimpoint, vortex and Sig. like all 3 for different reasons. Value on the vortex and slimness of the Aimpoint and Sigs.
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geoevansiii
Alpha
After a bunch of research, I opted for the Sig Romeo 5. Lots of great reviews and torture test videos on YouTube (one guy shoots one with a 12 gauge shotgun (7.5 shot) and it not only still works, it is still zeroed. Rated at 40,000 hours on a battery...that's almost as good as an Aimpoint.
SaltyMonkey
Professional
Aim point is hard to beat. Vortex spitfire 3 x prism is a good value, if you want some magnification and crosshairs that don’t have to be on. Etched in glass. You can also choose between green or red.
geoevansiii
Alpha
Indeed, looked into AimPoint. But you can literally buy five Romeo 5 units for the price of one AimPoint...so as good as they seem are they really 5 times better given that we’re only looking to put a little red dot on stuff?
HansGruber
Ronin
Depends on what you want it for.
If you just want it for a range toy/plinker/light hunter the Sig is fine.
Serious use, the Aimpoint is what you want.
Bassbob
Emissary
I agree. To an extent. I believe the Aimpoint Pro is a better built optic. But I am curious. I hear people say all the time that the Romeo 5 is ok for range or plinking but I wouldn't trust my life to it. It made me wonder what criteria that's based on. Other than it being low cost and Chinese made ( many so called high end optics are also Chinese made). Has anyone ever seen one fail? I have several and at least one of them I have abused pretty good and it has so far refused to die. Still dead zero'ed. Maybe it's the clarity of the glass or the size of the objective lens? Enquiring minds want to know.
For me, if I was going to combat I would be looking at something other than the Romeo 5. Probably something other than the AImpoint too, but..... As for would I trust my life to one, sure. For a civilian with some personal defense weapons ( Which I think I just described almost everyone on this board) I would and do stick Romeo 5s on most of them. I can quickly and accurately engage my target and in my experience a Romeo 5 is hard to kill.
geoevansiii
Alpha
That was my assumption...though I have to say the one vid I found (can’t find the link at present) put the Romeo through water, ice, repeated drops and a shotgun blast so for sure for my range visits, I’m going to spend the sub $200 versus the $900.
geoevansiii
Alpha
I’ve always addressed the “go to battle with” discussion with “you wouldn’t go to battle with a red dot to begin with.” Or “trust your life to.” Like my tac instructor said the day we had to do a cease fire while one of our guys had to mess with his optic: “Excuse me Mr. Bad Guy while i adjust my red dot.” I’ve never been a proponent of putting lights or anyting other than steel on short distance, point-shoot defense weapons. They all bring a measure of cool, but I’d rather know my sights are going to work and my gun isn’t giving the bad guy a target (and I’m not flagging my kid or my dog in the dark).
HansGruber
Ronin
I would disagree with not going to battle with a red dot; look at the various military front-line units that use Aimpoint/EoTech as their primary optics...and these are also very sharp-edge guys, as well. They aren’t running irons as primary. In fact—I don’t think there’s a single American combat unit overseas that isn’t running some type of optic; I don’t think anyone is running straight irons anymore...
And that is, perhaps, one of the reasons why you get the better optics—they hold zero (older EoTechs shifting due to temperature being a known issue now excepted).
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HansGruber
Ronin
And if that’s what you’re happy with, roll with it.
I wil point out, though, is one thing I’ve learned over the years is that optics are something that you do, very much, get what you pay for. In the Aimpoint example? It’s a proven track record of years—decades, actually—of front-line duty. The Sig optics just don’t have that, and a single u-tube video with made up “tests” just really doesn’t compare.
At the end of the day, it’s up to you to decide if the “what you get” is worth the “what you pay for it”. Personally? I’ll pay a bit more for the Aimpoints (pro tip: buy used; I got one of my PRO’s for not much more than that Romeo ran you); you may feel otherwise, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Bassbob
Emissary
The Sig optic hasn't been out for nearly as long as the Aimpoint. And again, I don't think anyone is under the illusion that the $129 Romeo is comparable to an Aimpoint or an Eotech. And again, none of us are operators on the front line and none of us are likely to subject our weapons to what they get subjected to in Afghanistan or something.
I didn't see that torture test until I already had 4 Romeo 5s and it had nada to do with me buying them. I don't know if you've ever shot a KSG25, but it isn't a forgiving shotgun to shoot and it is very uncomfortable to shoot high velocity slugs through, It's just not designed to absorb recoil. 1000 plus rounds through it with the Romeo and it's still zero'ed. And I'm not talking about target loads.
Does that put it on par with an Aimpoint ? Hell no. But it does reassure me that when I grab an AR in a defensive situation the Romeo will be on before I get it to my shoulder and I'll quickly and accurately address a target.
I didn't see that torture test until I already had 4 Romeo 5s and it had nada to do with me buying them. I don't know if you've ever shot a KSG25, but it isn't a forgiving shotgun to shoot and it is very uncomfortable to shoot high velocity slugs through, It's just not designed to absorb recoil. 1000 plus rounds through it with the Romeo and it's still zero'ed. And I'm not talking about target loads.
Does that put it on par with an Aimpoint ? Hell no. But it does reassure me that when I grab an AR in a defensive situation the Romeo will be on before I get it to my shoulder and I'll quickly and accurately address a target.