testtest

Scope ring height for M1A

It is very frustrating that Leupold does not give ring height in MM or Inch. And their Ring selector program does not cover a Springfield M1A.

So if you have a Springfield M1A with ANY of the 22 inch barrels, and the Springfield 4th gen aluminum Scope mount adapter, a scope with a 35mm tube, and 56mm lens (my case a Mark 5HD™ 5-25x56mm), you want the Leupold Mk4 HIGH ring option.

--The HIGH rings raise the 56mm lens just enough so you can use the Iron sights WITH the 4th gen adapter still attached. So when you look thru the Springfield peep sight, to front sight post, you can barely see the bottom of the scope in your periphery. This means it does not impact your field of view.

-- BUT, you COULD use the MEDIUM rings. While they do raise the scope above the front sight, the bottom of the scope will moderately obstruct your ability to see the PERIPHERY above it. Think the equivalent of aiming at something very close but your scope is at max magnification, or an extremely small sight aperture on a moving target.

--As for the SUPER HIGH rings, you could use them. They definitely raise the scope clear of the Iron Sight field of view. But extra height is never desirable. For new shooters, think about mounting a scope 12 inches above your barrel. If you sight it in at 25ft, your barrel needs to be tilted up to meet the reticle. So when you aim for something at 50ft, your bullet would pass WELL above, over the target.

--Another note on scope height. Your scope is always exposed, higher rings equals more exposure. No matter how careful you are, you will bump it into something.

**One final note specifically for the 4th gen aluminum scope mount adapter, it is designed so you can use the iron sights while it is still attached! BUT Springfield has no mention of this fact!!
 
The M1A (M-14) is a problematic platform for mounting scopes since it wasn't designed to do so as a priority. With the M1A this process is more involved than with a bolt gun.

For any rifle you want to have your scope as low as possible to minimize the difference between the optic and bore line..

With the M1A that is accomplished by a combination of mount and ring height. There are several brands of M1A mounts with the ARMS #18 being considered the lowest, followed by the various Sadlack mounts. Both feature a channel to allow for iron sight use at/or below certain ranges since the mount will limit adjusting that rear sight for longer ranges, but then that's what a scope is best for.

If you want to use your irons quickly then use QR rings. Several brands are available including the ARMS rings (available in different heights) which can have a see-thru channel depending on height.

Then, depending on the scope objective size you'll need to determine ring height (as mentioned above). There is no standardization between manufacturers on how they disclose ring height. But if you want to use both irons & scope w/o scope removal then you're stuck with an ungainly optic height with rings, with a see-thru or not, and little or no cheek rest which then requires a add-on cheek rest.

If you go with a higher mount try to use the lowest overall height (mount + rings) as possible.

There are better M1A mounts than what SA offeres so decide what you want to do with your rifle. Low is better.

My .02
 
Last edited:
It is very frustrating that Leupold does not give ring height in MM or Inch. And their Ring selector program does not cover a Springfield M1A.
If you look at the "Specifications" tab on the Leupold MARK 4 35mm ring web page it shows the height in inches.

MARK 4 35MM ALUMINUM SUPER HIGH MATTE
Part # 174942
Ring Height (in) 1.4

MARK 4 35MM ALUMINUM HIGH MATTE
Part # 120180
Ring Height (in) 1.06

MARK 4 35MM MEDIUM (ALUMINUM) MATTE
Part # 178531
Ring Height (in) .9
 
Back
Top