Shotguns

[Talyn]

Home Defense Shotguns with Sentinel Concepts – AR-15 News, Reviews...

With a range of reliable home defense shotguns available , we consulted with Steve Fisher of Sentinel Concepts to explore the best practices.

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Tactical Shotgun Basics with Cougar Mountain Solutions – AR-15...

We reached out to one of the best tactical shotgun instructors in the country, Erick Gelhaus of Cougar Mountain Solutions.

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Shotgun vs. AR-15 – A Conversation with Steve “Yeti” Fisher of...

In light of a recent conversation on shotgun vs. AR-15 online at Defensive Foundations, we reached out to Steve "Yeti" Fisher to learn more about the benefits of a shotgun for home defense, why you might consider one over an AR, and why training and familiarity are what matters above all.

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[Bassbob]

Good interviews. I disagree with Yeti on a few points, but……

I started out long ago doing the pull, pull thing. Primary focus was quicker loading with a pump. It also is somewhat effective at recoil mitigation. When I got into auto loaders I started training on the push, pull. You could switch back and forth between the two methods depending on the gun easily enough I guess, but in reality the 2/10 ( max) increase in loading speed using the pull, pull method on a pump is probably a wash since the push, pull is going to keep you on target much more effectively.

I disagree with both authors regarding ammunition capacity. 3 rounds doesn’t weigh enough to make the gun much lighter and I’d prefer to have more ammo on or in the gun since that’s all the ammo you’re gonna have available in any given situation realistically. I know the authors were referring strictly to house guns but A) a house gun can become an outside gun in a hurry whether you want it to or not and B) not everyone can afford ( much less stage) a house shotgun and an “ out in the backyard” shotgun. So most folks will just have one SD shotgun. Not me, but most folks . And under loading a shotgun is just stupid. The same rationale goes for sights. If its only role is ever going to be in the house, really the best thing you can have on it is a green laser. Which isn’t going to do shite for you outside unless it’s dark.

Which brings us to my other “ divergence”. Ammo choice. Both of these authors state they prefer a looser pattern than FC. While I agree there are situations where you might want a bigger spread, none of those are going to be indoors at 10 yards. Especially if you live in an apartment ( in which case a Shockwave may not be the best choice either). In almost any situation I want as tight a pattern as possible and in the few situations I can think of where I wouldn’t I would go with ForceX2. A looser spread with much better pellet density. It seems strange to me to recommend a less accurate ( aka “ more forgiving” ) load and at the same time suggest a simple bead sight.

Anyway, I’m not going to argue with the experts but at the end of the day we are the ones responsible for our own fate in a SD situation. So imma do me and let them teach others to do them.