Should You Use A Suppressor For Home Defense?
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KillerFord1977
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Bassbob
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Me too. My shotgun is about 18".
SaltyMonkey
Professional
It’ll put hair on yer chest.
The Night Rider
Professional
I mean, if I had one I'd use but it's kind of a day late and a dollar short
While I agree for home defense a suppressor makes a lot of sense.
With some of the over zealous prosecutors, does it also pose any additional risk?
While I would assume defending my life and that of my family during a break in would be justified. Especially against let’s say armed robbers. With every minute detail getting scrutinized. On the off chance that the prosecutor goes balls to the wall and let’s say the home defender is found guilty of a crime even if minor. Would having a suppressor potentially open them up to additional sentencing because they have now been found committing a crime with a suppressor? Which if I’m not mistaken comes with some pretty harsh jail time.
Just something I was thinking about when I watched this.
With some of the over zealous prosecutors, does it also pose any additional risk?
While I would assume defending my life and that of my family during a break in would be justified. Especially against let’s say armed robbers. With every minute detail getting scrutinized. On the off chance that the prosecutor goes balls to the wall and let’s say the home defender is found guilty of a crime even if minor. Would having a suppressor potentially open them up to additional sentencing because they have now been found committing a crime with a suppressor? Which if I’m not mistaken comes with some pretty harsh jail time.
Just something I was thinking about when I watched this.
Bassbob
Emissary
This again ?
All the overzealous prosecutors going after otherwise justified shooters over mods we keep hearing about from lawyers and carry insurance people and Mas Ayoob. Not a single example of it happening.
I know, I'm like a broken record, but jeez. We have this same thing come up about once a week around here and it has literally never happened.
KillerFord1977
SAINT
Not one person, not one, either a lawyer, prosecutor, gun expert, or other has ever, ever, ever noted one example where a LEGAL modification has been used in court. Triggers, suppressors, sights, etc …
This horse has been whipped so many times.
Its the carry insurance company folks of the world that bring up this to get $$$$$$
Bassbob
Emissary
Word mah brutha.
I hate to burst you guys bubble but there has been instances where the prosecution has tried to use firearms modifications against a defendant. Some of these modifications are not the main reason the defendant is on trial, though things like ammunition types, emblems, attachments and other mods have been used as a way to build a case against the defendant for intent to kill or negligence even in what most would consider a legal self defense shooting. Kyle Rittenhouse was a recent example of this kinda case where the prosecutor was trying to use anything he could to make Kyle look like a blood thirsty killer and not just someone who defended himself against multiple attackers.
Just because a prosecutor tries to build a case using firearm mods as a means to force an opinion of a defendant doesn't mean the case will hold any weight.
Hopefully none of us here will ever need to use our firearms in a self defense situation especially for those in blue states or cities.
Here are a couple references on the subject with examples taken from actual court cases.
An Attorney Reflects on Gun Modifications
armedcitizensnetwork.org
Should You Modify The Trigger Of Your Everyday Carry (EDC) Gun? » Concealed Carry Inc
Matthew talks about some pros and cons to modifying your EDC concealed carry gun's trigger. Have you modified yours, or thought about doing a trigger job? Read this article before you do.
www.concealedcarry.com
Bassbob
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I hate to burst you guys bubble but there has been instances where the prosecution has tried to use firearms modifications against a defendant. Some of these modifications are not the main reason the defendant is on trial, though things like ammunition types, emblems, attachments and other mods have been used as a way to build a case against the defendant for intent to kill or negligence even in what most would consider a legal self defense shooting. Kyle Rittenhouse was a recent example of this kinda case where the prosecutor was trying to use anything he could to make Kyle look like a blood thirsty killer and not just someone who defended himself against multiple attackers.
Just because a prosecutor tries to build a case using firearm mods as a means to force an opinion of a defendant doesn't mean the case will hold any weight.
Hopefully none of us here will ever need to use our firearms in a self defense situation especially for those in blue states or
Here are a couple references on the subject with examples taken from actual court cases.
An Attorney Reflects on Gun Modifications
Should You Modify The Trigger Of Your Everyday Carry (EDC) Gun? » Concealed Carry Inc
Matthew talks about some pros and cons to modifying your EDC concealed carry gun's trigger. Have you modified yours, or thought about doing a trigger job? Read this article before you do.www.concealedcarry.com
Ok, cite the case. RE: Rittenhouse, you were very vague about the prosecutor trying anything he could, etc. What specific gun mods or catchy little stickers on the gun did the prosecutor trot out ? Because I don't remember any. And I have asked everyone on this forum and Mas Ayoob to provide me one single example of it and so far no one has been able to.
Bassbob
Emissary
Also , and we have had this discussion before, the only cases anyone can come up with about gun modifications involve police officers. Officers who either modified their duty weapon against dept. rules or in one case, used his own personal weapon. Cops are definitely held to a higher standard than regular people. The only civilian cases I ever hear about are Zimmerman or Rittenhouse. But neither one of those cases as far as I know involved a modified weapon and both men were acquitted.
Didn’t mean to set you off there bassbob. I was looking at the suppressor somewhat differently then a modification. Since it’s of course regulated under the NFA, while a trigger modification is not.
Also in the example, I meant to explain it in a way that the prosecutor found an infraction/crime committed during the defensive shooting. Not that just by having a suppressor you would be potentially found guilty in an otherwise justified shooting.
Trying to think of a hypothetical example of a potential case but nothing coming to me.
In the links I provided there is examples of what you're looking for.
Like I mentioned above, the context of these cases typically weren't about the firearm mods themselves but to use the modded firearms to build the defendant as an unlawful character with bad intentions. In the Rittenhouse case the type of ammo he had loaded in the rifle was one of many things used by the prosecutor to try and paint Rittenhouse's intent. At the end of the day a prosecutor will try to use anything they can to paint a defendant in a negative light to try and convince the jury.
Bassbob
Emissary
You didn't set me off brother. It's just a well covered subject.
The links you provided involve cops.