Should You Use A Suppressor For Home Defense?
- Thread starter Talyn
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Police are still civilians plus them being part of law enforcement puts their cases at the forefront of the headlines unlike regular citizens.
Here's a quote from one of the links.
“Consider that the prosecutors tried to use the fact that Kyle Rittenhouse used hollow-point cartridges in his AR-15 because they explode, and he wanted to kill people. We know it's ludicrous, and the prosecutor was schooled by Rittenhouse and the defense counsel on this point, but the point is nearly anything is fair game".
Bassbob
Emissary
They are also held to a much higher standard with regards to justified shootings. The ones in question also either modified their gun against dept. regs and then tried to claim they didn't mean to shoot ( hence why the modded trigger would come into play) or in the other case I can think of, the guy brought his own shotgun with the words "You're F'ed stenciled on it.
Bassbob
Emissary
Rittenhouse claims they were FMJ. But even if he didn't, are you or any of these lawyers or insurance people trying to suggest we shouldn't use hollow points in our defensive handguns ? What's in yours brother ?
Bassbob
Emissary
With regards to Rittenhouse it's really a moot point anyway. He was not convicted and even if he had used whatever bullets the dumbass prosecutor thinks he should have used, he was getting hauled into court.
The fact is in this country if you shoot the "Wrong person" in self defense or not, cop or not, you are getting hauled into court.
The fact is in this country if you shoot the "Wrong person" in self defense or not, cop or not, you are getting hauled into court.
The case with the you're F,ed dust cover was actually an AR. I've watched the video numerous times and I personally feel that officer did murder that guy. Having stupid logos doesn't mean someone is guilty in my book but this can convince some that the person on trial had the intent to do harm.
Bassbob
Emissary
Yeah, dude was an idiot and shouldn't have been allowed to be a cop.
My wife just told me about an Orlando Cop who got pulled over in his cruiser by a Highway Patrol doing 85 in a 40. The Orlando cop cussed at the trooper and told him he was on his way to work and then just left. Trooper calls it in, idiot cop gets suspended. He should be fired.
Hell no!
I'm not advocating for anything here I'm just pointing out that certain things have been used against lawful citizens by overzealous prosecutors before.
Fortunately I live in NH and our laws here protect law abiding citizens involved in legal self defense instances. I know in Massachusetts where I lived previously the courts there would do what ever they could to bring charges against a self defender no matter the evidence proving innocence.
A lot of my firearms are modded for different reasons with a variety of different mods for all lawful purposes and I wouldn't have it any other way. I only use hollow points in my carry pistols unless I'm in the woods where there is a higher chance of encountering bear then I have soild bullets loaded.
Bassbob
Emissary
Same here. Justified is justified. And our governor has a record of pardoning even some of the dumbasses ( McCloskys for example). The cop in KC who was convicted by their Soros funded DA is most likely getting a pardon as well. In my opinion that guy should never have been charged.
All I'm saying is that barring making yourself a giant target by going on the internet and talking about killing intruders and stenciling crap on your gun, you are usually going to sink or swim on the strength of your ability to convince a jury or prosecutor you were reasonable in your belief your life was being threatened. Especially with SYG laws. And Rittenhouse is now a precedent. It is highly unlikely anyone is taking your gun apart to see if you dropped an Apex kit in it. And if they've gone that far, you're already in court anyway so unless that trigger upgrade gets you convicted it's a moot point. And that has never happened. Not even in NY or CA.
Agreed!
Hey well I think I found the answer I was looking for, basically as long as long as it’s justified self defense no issue.
Does Using an NFA Item in a Personal Defense Situation Put You in More Legal Jeopardy? - The Truth About Guns
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www.thetruthaboutguns.com
KillerFord1977
SAINT
Can anyone name one where the conviction was based on legal modifications of a gun ?I hate to burst you guys bubble but there has been instances where the prosecution has tried to use firearms modifications against a defendant. Some of these modifications are not the main reason the defendant is on trial, though things like ammunition types, emblems, attachments and other mods have been used as a way to build a case against the defendant for intent to kill or negligence even in what most would consider a legal self defense shooting. Kyle Rittenhouse was a recent example of this kinda case where the prosecutor was trying to use anything he could to make Kyle look like a blood thirsty killer and not just someone who defended himself against multiple attackers.
Just because a prosecutor tries to build a case using firearm mods as a means to force an opinion of a defendant doesn't mean the case will hold any weight.
Hopefully none of us here will ever need to use our firearms in a self defense situation especially for those in blue states or cities.
Here are a couple references on the subject with examples taken from actual court cases.
An Attorney Reflects on Gun Modifications
armedcitizensnetwork.org
Should You Modify The Trigger Of Your Everyday Carry (EDC) Gun? » Concealed Carry Inc
Matthew talks about some pros and cons to modifying your EDC concealed carry gun's trigger. Have you modified yours, or thought about doing a trigger job? Read this article before you do.www.concealedcarry.com
Anyone ??
Bassbob
Emissary
Justified is justified brother.Hey well I think I found the answer I was looking for, basically as long as long as it’s justified self defense no issue.
Does Using an NFA Item in a Personal Defense Situation Put You in More Legal Jeopardy? - The Truth About Guns
◀Previous Post Next Post▶ Does the kind of firearm you use in a self-defense situation matter? If you shoot a home invader to protect your family with a suppressed handgun, does that present legal problems you wouldn’t face if you’d shot the attacker with a Ruger GP100? That’s a question...www.thetruthaboutguns.com
I like suppressors, just not enough to pay $200 and register them with the feds. In reality the only ( Legal) thing they are useful for ( above just being a novelty) is home defense. Because firing guns indoors is deafening.
KillerFord1977
SAINT
Five guys on a firing line firing AR’s into a big sounder of hogs warrants the usefulness of suppressors
Bassbob
Emissary
True. I forgot hunting.Five guys on a firing line firing AR’s into a big sounder of hogs warrants the usefulness of suppressors