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Sig 320 goes off during arrest by it self

xdman

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Well sig caught on video, this probably doesn’t help their case. I mean it looks like the guy picking up the criminal by legs gun is going off, but that holster appears to be kydex and trigger fully covered. This is an S your pants moment.
 
The FN509 had a similar issue with at least one PD contract and had to recall those units and redesign the fire control unit to eliminate the possibility of uncommanded discharges.

I think more research needs to be done to determine if certain types of holsters are contributing to these types of incidents.
 
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I dont know, kind of looks like it get kicked to me. Enlarged it best I can and I think I see flash right after the foot is by the holster. But it's still a small screen to be sure.
 
Okay so I sort of wanted to point something out here I noticed on my own light bearing holster (which seems very common among LEOs).
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Note the gap at the trigger guard. Well In this case I used a streamlight tlr1 HL. It’s obviously wider then trigger guard therefore holster has to be wider to accommodate light. This leaves a lot of space for debris to get into or wedged into, cops tend to carry a lot of gear, in this video the officer bent down and stood up. In other video a female officer was carrying a bag against her holster. Now obviously lots of cops carry other types of guns and it hasn’t been an issue. But when I first noted this, I opted not to carry or use this holster (even though p226 da/sa) I ordered a non-light bearing holster and use that instead which does not have this gap.
 
Okay so I sort of wanted to point something out here I noticed on my own light bearing holster (which seems very common among LEOs).View attachment 42068

Note the gap at the trigger guard. Well In this case I used a streamlight tlr1 HL. It’s obviously wider then trigger guard therefore holster has to be wider to accommodate light. This leaves a lot of space for debris to get into or wedged into, cops tend to carry a lot of gear, in this video the officer bent down and stood up. In other video a female officer was carrying a bag against her holster. Now obviously lots of cops carry other types of guns and it hasn’t been an issue. But when I first noted this, I opted not to carry or use this holster (even though p226 da/sa) I ordered a non-light bearing holster and use that instead which does not have this gap.
There has been a big discussion on SigTalk about holsters that allow for WMLs and how they provide access into the trigger guard. It was also pointed out that the width of the trigger on the P320 is almost exactly the same as the width of the trigger guard. I think it could be a perfect storm of contributing elements.
 
The FN509 had a similar issue with at least one PD contract and had to recall those units and redesign the fire control unit to eliminate the possibility of uncommanded discharges.

I think more research needs to be done to determine if certain types of holsters are contributing to these types of incidents.
I didn't see the recall for the FN 509c MRD that I own (will need to look for it), but did see that my FNS 9 was recalled, as my serial number was one that matched the recall. 🤦‍♂️

 
To quote a friend:
How come its always LEO with this instance ?
If it happened all the time, would not a gun range have video.
Tens of Thousands of people have Sig 320’s, yet no gun range has a video of a 320 going off in the range, shooting bay or otherwise unintentional….

Sooo… I think in all these instances, the trigger was struck. Can you say without a reasonable doubt - 100% certain- that the leg/foot didn't come in contact ?
 
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