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Springfield’s Personal Defense Weapon Is the Kind of Flamethrower You Need in Your Life

TEXASforLIFE said:
That's almost idiotic short? I thought a 11.5" barrel short enough, but it shot well and plenty of fire. Buy'em if you love 'em, but not for me.
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It's plenty accurate and has zero recoil, I group at 50 yards with it.

And as a PDW, you're not hitting anyone outside of ten yards in a self defense scenario without going to jail anyhow, it also packs that high velocity 556 punch.
 
TacticalPirate said:
I have this gun, and it does send a burst of fire out the barrel, but you got my hopes up that I could buy an actual flamethrower...
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You can buy an actual flamethrower. I very nearly did and now wish I had as the price has risen by about $400 since the "New normal".

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TacticalPirate said:
It's plenty accurate and has zero recoil, I group at 50 yards with it.

And as a PDW, you're not hitting anyone outside of ten yards in a self defense scenario without going to jail anyhow, it also packs that high velocity 556 punch.
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Sorry, but you're passing on a really bad, continuing myth--that is, "you're going to jail if you shoot anyone outside of X yards in self defense".

If your assailant is 11 yards away and shooting at you, are his bullets suddenly ineffective at 10 yards? Or are his bullets still lethal a 11 yards?

How about if fire is incoming from 25 yards? Or 50? at what distance do the incoming bullets magically become harmless, where your outgoing bullets aren't?

Also--please let me know exactly which states have a distance requirement written into their self defense laws.
 
HansGruber said:
Sorry, but you're passing on a really bad, continuing myth--that is, "you're going to jail if you shoot anyone outside of X yards in self defense".

If your assailant is 11 yards away and shooting at you, are his bullets suddenly ineffective at 10 yards? Or are his bullets still lethal a 11 yards?

How about if fire is incoming from 25 yards? Or 50? at what distance do the incoming bullets magically become harmless, where your outgoing bullets aren't?

Also--please let me know exactly which states have a distance requirement written into their self defense laws.
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It was a general statement about the size of a home. Chill.

Most people don't have 50 or 25 yard hallways. Obviously if you're under fire from great distances outdoors circumstances will change.
 
HansGruber said:
Sorry, but you're passing on a really bad, continuing myth--that is, "you're going to jail if you shoot anyone outside of X yards in self defense".

If your assailant is 11 yards away and shooting at you, are his bullets suddenly ineffective at 10 yards? Or are his bullets still lethal a 11 yards?

How about if fire is incoming from 25 yards? Or 50? at what distance do the incoming bullets magically become harmless, where your outgoing bullets aren't?

Also--please let me know exactly which states have a distance requirement written into their self defense laws.
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I think the 21 foot “ Rule” is meant to apply to an unarmed attacker or one with a knife or something other than a firearm. And I don’t think it’s codified, but if you shoot an unarmed person 25 yards away you may have a hard time convincing someone that you were in imminent fear for your life.
 
TacticalPirate said:
I have this gun, and it does send a burst of fire out the barrel, but you got my hopes up that I could buy an actual flamethrower...
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Bassbob said:
I think the 21 foot “ Rule” is meant to apply to an unarmed attacker or one with a knife or something other than a firearm. And I don’t think it’s codified, but if you shoot an unarmed person 25 yards away you may have a hard time convincing someone that you were in imminent fear for your life.
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Basically what heard on this end too from different sources. Someone can move 20' or so in seconds with knife or club.
 
TacticalPirate said:
I have this gun, and it does send a burst of fire out the barrel, but you got my hopes up that I could buy an actual flamethrower...
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Flamethrowers are legal in most states and available. I clear the snow in my driveway with a Viet Nam era one bought at a surplus auction many years ago. The first time I used it the cops showed up because they and apparently at least one of my neighbors didn't know it was legal. :cool:
 
I'm building a 7.5" AR right now, I'm surprised 5.5" barrels are even available, had a hard time just finding 7.5" in stock.

I thought about going with the Maxim cqb brace, but didn't want to mess with non standard BCG.

Anyway, weapons like this fill a very specific niche. A vehicle gun, with soft armor defeating capability. Which isn't that outlandish in today's environment. But this particular example is missing one vital feature to fulfill this role. A single point sling QD end plate. To keep the weapon slung, between your legs while you drive.
 
bigx5murf said:
I'm building a 7.5" AR right now, I'm surprised 5.5" barrels are even available, had a hard time just finding 7.5" in stock.

I thought about going with the Maxim cqb brace, but didn't want to mess with non standard BCG.

Anyway, weapons like this fill a very specific niche. A vehicle gun, with soft armor defeating capability. Which isn't that outlandish in today's environment. But this particular example is missing one vital feature to fulfill this role. A single point sling QD end plate. To keep the weapon slung, between your legs while you drive.
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Primary Arms has them for $15.

While you’re there pick up a Magpul enhanced billet trigger guard.
 
bigx5murf said:
Yea, not a big deal if you're building DIY like I am. But for a factory gun, with a factory warranty, it's an oversight.
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Does changing the end plate void a warranty? I’m asking because I don’t know. Either way you could just stick the stock one back on there before sending it back.

I do get your point brother, but it’s pretty much impossible to find a factory gun set up exactly the way I would want it. That’s the cool thing about ARs. All that stuff is dead simple to swap out.
 
Bassbob said:
Does changing the end plate void a warranty? I’m asking because I don’t know. Either way you could just stick the stock one back on there before sending it back.

I do get your point brother, but it’s pretty much impossible to find a factory gun set up exactly the way I would want it. That’s the cool thing about ARs. All that stuff is dead simple to swap out.
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It shouldn't, but probably depends on the mood of whoever receives your firearms sent in for warranty.

I own a s&w m&p 15-22, that had a factory headspace issue recall. Two years before the recall was officially announced, I blew up the bolt due to an out of battery detonation. S&W repaired my gun under warranty, but in the paperwork noted trigger not original, and same issue will not be covered again unless factory trigger reinstalled.
 
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