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Taurus G3C: Full Review

I purchased a G3C last week. I'm a bit long winded but you'll let me know what I'm missing here. I have NOT got a chance to take it for a spin at the range yet, I was just too busy this weekend. However, On Saturday evening, I broke it completely down, cleaned each piece and lubricated it, saw no issues with it whatsoever. I also own a Taurus G2C 9mm and a Taurus G3 9mm and you'll know I sing praises for Taurus on here, I've found them completely reliable, accurate, and just overall great EDC weapons, especially the G2C as far as being able to conceal it. So, as you may or may not know, I use 147 grain Federal HST 9mm in all my 9mm handguns as far a carry ammo. I've shot a bunch of rounds of the HST thru both of my Taurus handguns with no FTF or FTE errors whatsoever, so I expected this one to be no different. I was wrong, now again, if I'm missing something here, let me know. The HST ammo keeps having a failure to feed on the G3C. It's not every round, but probably 1 in 3 so far. It's not only on the original round when you drop the slide either, sometimes, it will happen three or four times in a row before the next round will chamber, sometimes the first round chambers and there isn't an issue, but when it does not chamber, it's a dead weapon. You have to rack the slide very hard, then drop the mag to clear it. I have about 200 rounds of HST on hand so here's all the troubleshooting I did, I've narrowed it down to either a factory defect in the G3C barrel, more specifically in the feed ramp itself, or it just doesn't like the minimal added length the 147 grain HST rounds have over some other rounds I tried, so, here we go: Note: Again, the handgun has NOT been shot yet at all. No rounds except for whatever they might have fired at the factory have been fired thru the handgun. I suppose there is a chance there may be a bur or something on the feed ramp, although I ran my finger over every inch of it, and compared the barrel to the G2C barrel in every aspect, the barrel looks brand new, which it is...lol

1)Broke down the handgun, re-cleaned and lubricated EVERY part of the handgun...made sure the moving parts weren't gummed up with too much oil, if that's possible, then re-assembled and tried to chamber a round, again, about 1 in 3 won't chamber. The slide comes forward but the round does not elevate enough to chamber. The feed ramp on a 9mm is steep, but I've literally never had a problem with any 9mm round not wanting to chamber in a 9mm handgun I've ever owned. The nose of the round looks like it is not lifting up enough to slide into the chamber.

2)I have four 12 round mags, and two 15 round mags with sleeves for the G3C. The error is not mag related, at least not that discovered. I used all six magazines and had intermittent failure to feed malfunctions, all failing at the same point, the round not elevating and almost "digging" into the bottom of the feed ramp, again, the feed ramp is WELL lubricated

3) I changed out the barrel of my Taurus G2C with the barrel of my G3C. Upon reassembling the G3C using the G2C barrel, same length, they look identical as far as the barrel goes, the problem ceased to exist. With the reassembled G3C the problem disappeared, it chambered the HST rounds flawlessly time after time. Also, with the barrel of the G3C installed into the G2C, I was able to recreate the issue, BUT, not nearly as often as I did in the G3C. The HST rounds would FTF only about 1 in 7 or 1 in 10, although either is unacceptable in my opinion.

Now, here's the real kicker. I have about 250 rounds of Hornady 135 grain Flex Lock Critical Duty, the nickel plated round with the polymer filled in tip. I loaded up six mags after putting the G3C barrel back into the G3C.......each round chambered flawlessly, as did 5 different kinds of 115-124 grain FMJ rounds. I literally had no FTF issues with any of the Hornady or FMJ rounds, it's ONLY the HST rounds the G3C barrel doesn't like. So, having done all that, it has to be something with the G3C feed ramp and the HST round specifically, right? I mean, it chambered the other rounds with no issues whatsoever. I'm hesitant to take any action with Taurus before I take it out to the range. I'm hoping that maybe, firing some rounds thru it might break it in a bit and cause the FTF malfunctions with the HST to disappear, but I've never seen any 9mm handgun that didn't feed Federal ammo flawlessly. I've been shooting HST for quite a while, but the fact the handgun chambers all other rounds without issue is suspect to me. I'll try to post some pics of the FTF later if I can get them to upload.

Anyway, thanks for reading this and if I've missed anything or if you have any ideas, I'd greatly appreciate any input, and I thank you in advance. Ghost.
 
To be honest I looked at Taurus a few years back and liked the look and feel however never went any farther then just looking.
As far as the article is concerned and this is “me being me” I found it informative up until the point the author admitted to not knowing it had a manual safety until after putting 3 mags through it. I just find that odd for someone who is doing a review on anything especially a gun to not take the time to know everything about it before shooting it.
 
I purchased a G3C last week. I'm a bit long winded but you'll let me know what I'm missing here. I have NOT got a chance to take it for a spin at the range yet, I was just too busy this weekend. However, On Saturday evening, I broke it completely down, cleaned each piece and lubricated it, saw no issues with it whatsoever. I also own a Taurus G2C 9mm and a Taurus G3 9mm and you'll know I sing praises for Taurus on here, I've found them completely reliable, accurate, and just overall great EDC weapons, especially the G2C as far as being able to conceal it. So, as you may or may not know, I use 147 grain Federal HST 9mm in all my 9mm handguns as far a carry ammo. I've shot a bunch of rounds of the HST thru both of my Taurus handguns with no FTF or FTE errors whatsoever, so I expected this one to be no different. I was wrong, now again, if I'm missing something here, let me know. The HST ammo keeps having a failure to feed on the G3C. It's not every round, but probably 1 in 3 so far. It's not only on the original round when you drop the slide either, sometimes, it will happen three or four times in a row before the next round will chamber, sometimes the first round chambers and there isn't an issue, but when it does not chamber, it's a dead weapon. You have to rack the slide very hard, then drop the mag to clear it. I have about 200 rounds of HST on hand so here's all the troubleshooting I did, I've narrowed it down to either a factory defect in the G3C barrel, more specifically in the feed ramp itself, or it just doesn't like the minimal added length the 147 grain HST rounds have over some other rounds I tried, so, here we go: Note: Again, the handgun has NOT been shot yet at all. No rounds except for whatever they might have fired at the factory have been fired thru the handgun. I suppose there is a chance there may be a bur or something on the feed ramp, although I ran my finger over every inch of it, and compared the barrel to the G2C barrel in every aspect, the barrel looks brand new, which it is...lol

1)Broke down the handgun, re-cleaned and lubricated EVERY part of the handgun...made sure the moving parts weren't gummed up with too much oil, if that's possible, then re-assembled and tried to chamber a round, again, about 1 in 3 won't chamber. The slide comes forward but the round does not elevate enough to chamber. The feed ramp on a 9mm is steep, but I've literally never had a problem with any 9mm round not wanting to chamber in a 9mm handgun I've ever owned. The nose of the round looks like it is not lifting up enough to slide into the chamber.

2)I have four 12 round mags, and two 15 round mags with sleeves for the G3C. The error is not mag related, at least not that discovered. I used all six magazines and had intermittent failure to feed malfunctions, all failing at the same point, the round not elevating and almost "digging" into the bottom of the feed ramp, again, the feed ramp is WELL lubricated

3) I changed out the barrel of my Taurus G2C with the barrel of my G3C. Upon reassembling the G3C using the G2C barrel, same length, they look identical as far as the barrel goes, the problem ceased to exist. With the reassembled G3C the problem disappeared, it chambered the HST rounds flawlessly time after time. Also, with the barrel of the G3C installed into the G2C, I was able to recreate the issue, BUT, not nearly as often as I did in the G3C. The HST rounds would FTF only about 1 in 7 or 1 in 10, although either is unacceptable in my opinion.

Now, here's the real kicker. I have about 250 rounds of Hornady 135 grain Flex Lock Critical Duty, the nickel plated round with the polymer filled in tip. I loaded up six mags after putting the G3C barrel back into the G3C.......each round chambered flawlessly, as did 5 different kinds of 115-124 grain FMJ rounds. I literally had no FTF issues with any of the Hornady or FMJ rounds, it's ONLY the HST rounds the G3C barrel doesn't like. So, having done all that, it has to be something with the G3C feed ramp and the HST round specifically, right? I mean, it chambered the other rounds with no issues whatsoever. I'm hesitant to take any action with Taurus before I take it out to the range. I'm hoping that maybe, firing some rounds thru it might break it in a bit and cause the FTF malfunctions with the HST to disappear, but I've never seen any 9mm handgun that didn't feed Federal ammo flawlessly. I've been shooting HST for quite a while, but the fact the handgun chambers all other rounds without issue is suspect to me. I'll try to post some pics of the FTF later if I can get them to upload.

Anyway, thanks for reading this and if I've missed anything or if you have any ideas, I'd greatly appreciate any input, and I thank you in advance. Ghost.

I have EXACTLY the same problem with a new G3c that was manufactured in November of 2020. I was able to shoot 200 rounds of 124gr FMJ, in MIXED and RANDOMED brands without a single FTF or FTE. I tested it with the factory 12 and the ProMag 15 clips. Perfect performance for 200 rounds.

I then put full clips of Speer LE Gold Dot. Will not feed. Flat load attempt just as you described. Had the same experience with HST.

I was able to make BOTH clip types feed if I removed two rounds from the top of each. Now, this was non-shooting feeding. I am going tonight to test firing with clips loaded at minus 2.

Talked to Taurus. I refuse to send a new weapon back for a 12 week wait. I will either fix it myself or disassemble it and throw it away in parts. SOMETHING is wrong with these barrels. So, I am going to experiment with "altering" the shape of the feed ramp by polishing. I will provide feedback. Let's stay in touch here.

Phil
 
I have EXACTLY the same problem with a new G3c that was manufactured in November of 2020. I was able to shoot 200 rounds of 124gr FMJ, in MIXED and RANDOMED brands without a single FTF or FTE. I tested it with the factory 12 and the ProMag 15 clips. Perfect performance for 200 rounds.

I then put full clips of Speer LE Gold Dot. Will not feed. Flat load attempt just as you described. Had the same experience with HST.

I was able to make BOTH clip types feed if I removed two rounds from the top of each. Now, this was non-shooting feeding. I am going tonight to test firing with clips loaded at minus 2.

Talked to Taurus. I refuse to send a new weapon back for a 12 week wait. I will either fix it myself or disassemble it and throw it away in parts. SOMETHING is wrong with these barrels. So, I am going to experiment with "altering" the shape of the feed ramp by polishing. I will provide feedback. Let's stay in touch here.

Phil

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They may be fine guns, but for just a little bit more you can get a much better gun that feeds everything reliably.
FWIW I have a 30+ year old Taurus revolver that’s one of my favorite inanimate objects on the planet. So I’m not a Taurus hater. I’m just not a fan of their semi-autos.
 
I was able to make BOTH clip types

I then put full clips of Speer LE Gold Dot.

Theres your problem right there. they're MAGS not clips. 😎

There are many much more expensive firearms that choke with a certain round. The answer is simple. Choose a different round. There are quite a few high quality defensive rounds out there.

I have owned 5 G2c's, and still own a G2c & G3. Had 1 problem, and it was minor and could have gone on without repair. But, its not our CDW, so I had it repaired by the factory and it took 10 weeks. Frustrating for sure. But, the bottom line is that they made it right.
 
Theres your problem right there. they're MAGS not clips.

There are many much more expensive firearms that choke with a certain round. The answer is simple. Choose a different round. There are quite a few high quality defensive rounds out there.

I have owned 5 G2c's, and still own a G2c & G3. Had 1 problem, and it was minor and could have gone on without repair. But, its not our CDW, so I had it repaired by the factory and it took 10 weeks. Frustrating for sure. But, the bottom line is that they made it right.
I just got home from the range. I had the opportunity to try Federal LE HST and the Speer LE Gold Dot. In addition, I tried a Fiocchi hollow point, but I do not know the designation. Neither of the three feed with full mags. However, when mags were loaded minus 3, all three ran with one exception. On the next to final round with the Fiocchi, I had the identical FTF. Honestly, I think that was my error. J believe I limp wristed that shot.

After consulting with several individuals with considerable experience with Taurus and especially the G3c, I have a course of action I intend to follow to solve this problem. I hope it works and I will report back here. Taurus has given me a return authorization and provided all labels and shipping information free of charge. As it stands right this minute, I think I will opt to take on this task with my own resources. I really do not choose to wait 12-15 weeks for the repair.

I have FOUR additional G3c handguns ordered as gifts for 4 grandchildren. I am really sad I have had this problem and have phoned today and had that order converted to a different brand and model for those gifts. Time on that is not critical, because I have plenty of time for the modifications planned for those before the July 4th 2021 gift date.

Phil.



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I really want to like Taurus because I like the idea of quality firearms at an affordable price. Unfortunately, they are just not routinely meeting quality standards. My Millennium G2 has been a great gun, but my 709 Slim had to go back due to a broken extractor after 250 rounds, and my PT92 has spent more time at the warranty center than on the range. The TX22 I bought for my wife has been flawless for nearly 1000 rounds, so I know Taurus is capable of making great guns. I just wish they could be more consistent about it.
 
Phil, have you checked the extractor tension? Its a long shot, but easily done and much easier than shipping it back to the Mother Ship.
 
Phil, have you checked the extractor tension? Its a long shot, but easily done and much easier than shipping it back to the Mother Ship.
I have not checked that and honestly don't know how. I have been informed about an overhand possible with the barrel feed ramp movers going the feed ramp lead built into the lower action. My pistol has that issue. I am going to correct that and highly polish the fees ramp. I have been assured by an expert that this will correct the problem.

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Plenty of YouTube vids on the G2c/G3c's.
Dont know that you can polish the feed ramp too much, so thats a good place to start.

They aren't bad guns, and all guns need some luvin from time to time.

Good luck and please stay in touch & let us know how your journey goes.
 
I purchased a G3C last week. I'm a bit long winded but you'll let me know what I'm missing here. I have NOT got a chance to take it for a spin at the range yet, I was just too busy this weekend. However, On Saturday evening, I broke it completely down, cleaned each piece and lubricated it, saw no issues with it whatsoever. I also own a Taurus G2C 9mm and a Taurus G3 9mm and you'll know I sing praises for Taurus on here, I've found them completely reliable, accurate, and just overall great EDC weapons, especially the G2C as far as being able to conceal it. So, as you may or may not know, I use 147 grain Federal HST 9mm in all my 9mm handguns as far a carry ammo. I've shot a bunch of rounds of the HST thru both of my Taurus handguns with no FTF or FTE errors whatsoever, so I expected this one to be no different. I was wrong, now again, if I'm missing something here, let me know. The HST ammo keeps having a failure to feed on the G3C. It's not every round, but probably 1 in 3 so far. It's not only on the original round when you drop the slide either, sometimes, it will happen three or four times in a row before the next round will chamber, sometimes the first round chambers and there isn't an issue, but when it does not chamber, it's a dead weapon. You have to rack the slide very hard, then drop the mag to clear it. I have about 200 rounds of HST on hand so here's all the troubleshooting I did, I've narrowed it down to either a factory defect in the G3C barrel, more specifically in the feed ramp itself, or it just doesn't like the minimal added length the 147 grain HST rounds have over some other rounds I tried, so, here we go: Note: Again, the handgun has NOT been shot yet at all. No rounds except for whatever they might have fired at the factory have been fired thru the handgun. I suppose there is a chance there may be a bur or something on the feed ramp, although I ran my finger over every inch of it, and compared the barrel to the G2C barrel in every aspect, the barrel looks brand new, which it is...lol

1)Broke down the handgun, re-cleaned and lubricated EVERY part of the handgun...made sure the moving parts weren't gummed up with too much oil, if that's possible, then re-assembled and tried to chamber a round, again, about 1 in 3 won't chamber. The slide comes forward but the round does not elevate enough to chamber. The feed ramp on a 9mm is steep, but I've literally never had a problem with any 9mm round not wanting to chamber in a 9mm handgun I've ever owned. The nose of the round looks like it is not lifting up enough to slide into the chamber.

2)I have four 12 round mags, and two 15 round mags with sleeves for the G3C. The error is not mag related, at least not that discovered. I used all six magazines and had intermittent failure to feed malfunctions, all failing at the same point, the round not elevating and almost "digging" into the bottom of the feed ramp, again, the feed ramp is WELL lubricated

3) I changed out the barrel of my Taurus G2C with the barrel of my G3C. Upon reassembling the G3C using the G2C barrel, same length, they look identical as far as the barrel goes, the problem ceased to exist. With the reassembled G3C the problem disappeared, it chambered the HST rounds flawlessly time after time. Also, with the barrel of the G3C installed into the G2C, I was able to recreate the issue, BUT, not nearly as often as I did in the G3C. The HST rounds would FTF only about 1 in 7 or 1 in 10, although either is unacceptable in my opinion.

Now, here's the real kicker. I have about 250 rounds of Hornady 135 grain Flex Lock Critical Duty, the nickel plated round with the polymer filled in tip. I loaded up six mags after putting the G3C barrel back into the G3C.......each round chambered flawlessly, as did 5 different kinds of 115-124 grain FMJ rounds. I literally had no FTF issues with any of the Hornady or FMJ rounds, it's ONLY the HST rounds the G3C barrel doesn't like. So, having done all that, it has to be something with the G3C feed ramp and the HST round specifically, right? I mean, it chambered the other rounds with no issues whatsoever. I'm hesitant to take any action with Taurus before I take it out to the range. I'm hoping that maybe, firing some rounds thru it might break it in a bit and cause the FTF malfunctions with the HST to disappear, but I've never seen any 9mm handgun that didn't feed Federal ammo flawlessly. I've been shooting HST for quite a while, but the fact the handgun chambers all other rounds without issue is suspect to me. I'll try to post some pics of the FTF later if I can get them to upload.

Anyway, thanks for reading this and if I've missed anything or if you have any ideas, I'd greatly appreciate any input, and I thank you in advance. Ghost.

Take a look at this post I made after today's work and testing on this issue. My identical problem, based on today's work and testing,is completely solved and verified with 4 different defensive ammo selections. Hope this helps.

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I would also mention...Taurus issued me a return authorization for the weapon last week. They were kind enough to do it all free of charge, included the cost of the hazardous materials label. Unfortunately, they quoted a estimated turn around time of 12-15 weeks. I was not at all prepared to do that, so decided to do my own analysis and repair. Glad I made that decision.

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