jmcd
Professional
Greetings all. I just wanted to vent a bit about one of the things that I hope is not going to spread like all of the other legislative action I see here trying to gain traction in other states. I know there has been a lot of chatter on the forum about VA and some other states with what they are trying to enact. Sadly, a lot of that is already in play here.
Now that my son is going to be old enough to get a LTC (license to carry as they call it) You need to take an approved safety course before you can even apply. Supposedly, if you have taken an approved course and you get a permit, you do not need to take it again. Or, if you have had a permit for X amount of years, you are "grandfathered" in. I say supposedly because if you look at various police department websites, some of them say if you have moved into town and you are renewing your permit, you need to supply your latest certification regardless. So much for being grandfathered. Each town is different and each chief is the "licensing authority" so based on their individual policy, or if they are having a bad day, decides your fate. Some towns are known as "green" towns and others are "red" dependent on this. After the course needed is taken, and after an extensive background check, up to 4 months later, you will get a yes or no answer. Within this decision, again dependent on policy or what is going on that day, you could get whatever restriction they see fit to put on it. This can range to target only, to target and hunting, (can't hunt with a pistol or rifle on the eastern side of the state) to work only, to whatever they see fit.
With that said, I have been checking out "schools" for one day and I am already frustrated. Like the laws here being very hard to understand and being all over the place, so are the schools. I am getting pricing from anywhere from $80 to $240 for the state required course. Some offer additional training for "Utah carry" that will give you the certification needed to apply in that state and others. Some say you need to do live firing, others don't. I am looking at the larger schools and trying to stay away from the backyard stuff. There will be travel involved. On a good note, I noticed they have shaved it down to about 4 to 4 and a half hours, but the inconsistencies right off the bat are a bit worrying. I do have an email into my local PD to see if they have recommendations.
They really do want to make it as difficult as possible for the law abiding citizen. This is why I am the one doing all of the legwork for my son. I am not one of these parents that just gives the kids everything, but I don't want him to get discouraged. I will more than likely end up taking the course as well for a refresher. I don't think that could hurt anything other than my wallet and it gives me more time with my son.
I really hope that this sort of thing doesn't become a nation wide phenomena. I am a bit jealous of the folks who live in the "free" states. When I retire, I hope to add to that number.
Just throwing my vent out there. Thanks for listening.
Now that my son is going to be old enough to get a LTC (license to carry as they call it) You need to take an approved safety course before you can even apply. Supposedly, if you have taken an approved course and you get a permit, you do not need to take it again. Or, if you have had a permit for X amount of years, you are "grandfathered" in. I say supposedly because if you look at various police department websites, some of them say if you have moved into town and you are renewing your permit, you need to supply your latest certification regardless. So much for being grandfathered. Each town is different and each chief is the "licensing authority" so based on their individual policy, or if they are having a bad day, decides your fate. Some towns are known as "green" towns and others are "red" dependent on this. After the course needed is taken, and after an extensive background check, up to 4 months later, you will get a yes or no answer. Within this decision, again dependent on policy or what is going on that day, you could get whatever restriction they see fit to put on it. This can range to target only, to target and hunting, (can't hunt with a pistol or rifle on the eastern side of the state) to work only, to whatever they see fit.
With that said, I have been checking out "schools" for one day and I am already frustrated. Like the laws here being very hard to understand and being all over the place, so are the schools. I am getting pricing from anywhere from $80 to $240 for the state required course. Some offer additional training for "Utah carry" that will give you the certification needed to apply in that state and others. Some say you need to do live firing, others don't. I am looking at the larger schools and trying to stay away from the backyard stuff. There will be travel involved. On a good note, I noticed they have shaved it down to about 4 to 4 and a half hours, but the inconsistencies right off the bat are a bit worrying. I do have an email into my local PD to see if they have recommendations.
They really do want to make it as difficult as possible for the law abiding citizen. This is why I am the one doing all of the legwork for my son. I am not one of these parents that just gives the kids everything, but I don't want him to get discouraged. I will more than likely end up taking the course as well for a refresher. I don't think that could hurt anything other than my wallet and it gives me more time with my son.
I really hope that this sort of thing doesn't become a nation wide phenomena. I am a bit jealous of the folks who live in the "free" states. When I retire, I hope to add to that number.
Just throwing my vent out there. Thanks for listening.
