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The Reaction Time Deficit

Bassbob

Bassbob

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No new information for most of us, but might be some good points to ponder for some and it's always worthwhile to keep these things in your mind.

Are you always in "Condition Yellow" ?

Do you know what your "Fight or Flight" instinct will be ?

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The Reaction Time Deficit - The Shooter's Log

We all may think we have the fastest draw in the west, but how does reaction time diminish our response capabilities in getting on target.
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A couple of my observations. The importance of training cannot of course be overstated. The vast majority of people ( hopefully) will never know how they will react when someone is trying to kill them and the adage " You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to your level of training" is as apt is it gets.

I do know how I will react having been in the position a number of times, which as the author correctly states, is one less issue you have to contend with, however, I'll repeat, the importance of a regular training regimen, including practicing your draw daily, cannot be overstated. If you ever find yourself in that position you are already going to be behind the curve.

As for condition yellow, that is also, for some, a by-product of having spent a lot of time in dangerous situations or possibly dangerous situations. It really is a way of life and as such it is helpful to remember that keeping the fact that you are in condition yellow to yourself will go a long way towards making other people more comfortable around you.
I literally had an argument about a week ago with my wife because I was out back working on something and she came up behind me accidentally very stealthily and I reacted in a not very nice way. Totally my fault for forgetting situational awareness, but in my defense I have 6' privacy fence completely around my property and I have tells which will alert me if the perimeter is breeched. I got sloppy because of my own false sense of security. The older we get the less we can rely on our hearing too so you will need to use other, possibly more visibly obvious, methods of knowing exactly what is within distance of causing you harm. These things should be done as subtly as possible for obvious reasons. Primarily because you are not trying to broadcast to anyone what you are doing. Least of all when you are out to dinner with your wife's liberal niece from NY who somehow even though she lives in The Bronx is under the impression that St. Louis and every other place in the world is perfectly safe.

Of course we all know all this crap already and me saying it really isn't helping anyone here, but eh, I got nothing better to do.
 
Snake45 said:
Didn't we just have a Reaction Time discussion last week? :confused:
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Participation in threads isn't mandatory.

Feel free to start a better thread. Maybe one about trigger mods or ammo choices getting you convicted by an overzealous prosecutor ?
 
Bassbob said:
Participation in threads isn't mandatory.

Feel free to start a better thread. Maybe one about trigger mods or ammo choices getting you convicted by an overzealous prosecutor ?
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Yah, I thought we already had this discussion, starting last Monday. And I was hoping that one would continue, because it was getting pretty interesting:

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Reaction time good points

https://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/the-reaction-time-deficit/#respond
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I don't need to start a "better thread," because we already had one. ;)

As to your two suggested topics, they've been done to death. Everyone has made their decision one way or the other on these topics, and we'll see who was right and who was wrong if and when these matters ever come up in a court of competent jurisdiction. Spoiler Alert: Burying one's head in the sand and denying that there's an issue is NOT an effective strategy for dealing with the issue. ;)
 
Bassbob said:
A) Clearly define "Scared".

B) Will running safely and effectively remove you from the dangerous situation ?
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Fight, Flight, or Freeze: How We Respond to Threats

You may have heard of the fight or flight response, which is an automatic reaction to a perceived threat. We'll discuss what it means.
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In summary:

Our autonomic nervous system consists of the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems. The sympathetic nervous system drives the fight-or-flight response, while the parasympathetic nervous system drives freezing. How you react depends on which system dominates the response at the time. While the fight-flight-freeze response causes physiological reactions, it’s triggered by a psychological fear. The fear is conditioned, which means you’ve associated a situation or thing with negative experiences. This psychological response is initiated when you’re first exposed to the situation and develops over time. The thing that you’re scared of is called a perceived threat, or something you consider to be dangerous. Perceived threats are different for each person. When you’re faced with a perceived threat, your brain thinks you’re in danger. That’s because it already considers the situation to be life threatening. As a result, your body automatically reacts with the fight-flight-freeze response to keep you safe.

I wonder if all this helps or hinders ones reaction time. Most of us don't get to practice having the s--t scared out of us just to see how we'll handle it. Just another one of those philosophical forum questions.
 
Recusant said:
www.healthline.com

Fight, Flight, or Freeze: How We Respond to Threats

You may have heard of the fight or flight response, which is an automatic reaction to a perceived threat. We'll discuss what it means.
www.healthline.com www.healthline.com

In summary:

Our autonomic nervous system consists of the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems. The sympathetic nervous system drives the fight-or-flight response, while the parasympathetic nervous system drives freezing. How you react depends on which system dominates the response at the time. While the fight-flight-freeze response causes physiological reactions, it’s triggered by a psychological fear. The fear is conditioned, which means you’ve associated a situation or thing with negative experiences. This psychological response is initiated when you’re first exposed to the situation and develops over time. The thing that you’re scared of is called a perceived threat, or something you consider to be dangerous. Perceived threats are different for each person. When you’re faced with a perceived threat, your brain thinks you’re in danger. That’s because it already considers the situation to be life threatening. As a result, your body automatically reacts with the fight-flight-freeze response to keep you safe.

I wonder if all this helps or hinders ones reaction time. Most of us don't get to practice having the s--t scared out of us just to see how we'll handle it. Just another one of those philosophical forum questions.
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You've never had the :poop: scared out of you ? How did you react ?
 
Snake45 said:
Yah, I thought we already had this discussion, starting last Monday. And I was hoping that one would continue, because it was getting pretty interesting:

www.thearmorylife.com

Reaction time good points

https://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/the-reaction-time-deficit/#respond
www.thearmorylife.com www.thearmorylife.com

I don't need to start a "better thread," because we already had one. ;)

As to your two suggested topics, they've been done to death. Everyone has made their decision one way or the other on these topics, and we'll see who was right and who was wrong if and when these matters ever come up in a court of competent jurisdiction. Spoiler Alert: Burying one's head in the sand and denying that there's an issue is NOT an effective strategy for dealing with the issue. ;)
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Ah. So I posted an article that was already posted. My apologies. Feel free to ignore this thread.


In a country of what, a couple hundred million, how many times a year do you think an armed citizen shoots an attacker ? Any of those cases happen in DC, Chicago, New York, California, Jersey, Hawaii, Massachussetts ?

Spoiler alert: Plenty of them. If it was going to come up you would think there would be at least one example of it happening ? You got one ?

Using my preferred ammo and doing a trigger job on a carry gun is not what I would consider "Burying my head in the sand".
 
Which reminds me, I've been wanting to try to get this started as a new catchphrase, a new, hipper version of "Bless your heart" or "Lighten up, Francis," or a kinder, gentler ESAD. It's "Eat a waffle, Susan." Here's how it works:


What do you think? I was telling my next-door neighbor about this commercial last week and her 5-YO son grasped the concept immediately, repeating the phrase twice before I'd even finished the story. :oops: "You've created a monster," my neighbor said to me. "Hee hee," I replied, and walked away very pleased and proud. ;)

Hey, I wonder if there's a waffle emoji? If not, I should invent one. If this catches on, that could save a lot of time. :LOL:
 
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