Ukrainian Farmers vs Tanks
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Bassbob
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Why would you want them to be a NATO nation ? First of all, they are not even close to resembling a democracy, have never been and have never attempted to be and second of all I'm not altogether sure why the US is a NATO country. With a brief exception in the 1200s Ukraine has never been independent and for the vast majority of it's known history it has been Russian. It is the birthplace of Russia. How would it be if Russia and Mexico and Canada decided to form a military alliance ?
The fact is if Zolensky ( not even close to being a nice guy, in fact the main difference between him and Putin is he doesn't have any power) had not been running his mouth off trying to get into NATO and if the Biden Administration had not foolishly entertained this ridiculous idea, Putin never would have invaded.
If Ukranians actually want freedom I strenuously urge them to flee Ukraine and never return.
Kodiak Cowboy
Custom
Well said Bass Bob! Well said indeed!
Old_Me
SAINT
personally, i am not into politics of the world.
but on a personal level i do not appreciate an invasion.
you ask "what if, Russia and Mexico and Canada formed an alliance"?
what would YOU say if together they invaded the states?
an invasion of another country can cause a major war, if that invader, proceeds deeper and crosses borders.
as it is, Putrid has nukes at the ready, to get his point across.
you wanna explain to me what then??
it's only gonna take 1 errant nuke, to cross a border.
Bassbob
Emissary
Well you kinda proved my point brother. " What if Mexico and Canada invaded the US". I mean it's an obvious deflection, but still, you don't think Russia has the same right as we do under The Monroe Doctrine ?
All the people with nukes in the world and Russia is the one that scares you? Pakistan, India, China and almost certainly N. Korea and Iran are in possession of weapons grade plutonium. Worrying about Putin resorting to nukes is about like worrying that a giant asteroid is going to slam into the earth and wipe out all living creatures. The odds are about the same.
You are against invasion of another country. Did you have a problem with the US invading Iraq ? Afghanistan ? Libya ? Bosnia ? Do you think that "Sanctioned" invasions aren't going on right now? It seems like the US mainly only cares about other people invading their neighbors.
You probably should do a little reading about world history if not politics. And kick your TV through your living roo wall. Nobody said anything when Russia took over Crimea. That wasn't a big deal. They care about The Ukraine right now for 2 reasons. Gas and what dirt Ukranian officials have on certain democratic politicians.
Meanwhile the US is being led by a guy who has to have aids give him crib notes to ridiculously simple questions before a press conference. He publicly says " Putin can't stay in power" and then the next day he chastises a reporter for saying he said it. " That never happened" or something like that was his reply.
Every European country shirks their financial obligation to NATO and lets the US pick up the tab. Trump forces them to pay more of their fair share and heads explode. As if NATO exists at all to protect The US in any way.
NATO is Europe's "Monroe Doctrine". Let them fund it.
Annihilator
Emissary
My only concern here is that our babbling leader doesn’t start paying attention to what he is saying, he will get us into the middle of this war, I say let Ukraine and Russia fight there own battles and we completely stay out of it, just my opinion
Kodiak Cowboy
Custom
My opinion as well Annihilator!
Bassbob
Emissary
Too late for that. At a minimum Russia and the US are now in a new cold war.
Old_Me
SAINT
with more weapons, science and knowledge than back in JFK's days.
won't take much for some sort of attack with biological chemicals.