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.308 Accuracy Question

If it's not being utilized by military or law enforcement the term "cqb" is just a marketing tool
This is my CQB, and I’m not LEO… 😉😐
M1A still works as well for “close in”, but not ideal 😬😬😬
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Perhaps this thread posted by Mike here on this forum can shed some light on the topic per the author’s research & testing.

Very interesting, I have the garden variety M1A.
 
In my opinion it all depends on the model. A standard M1A is a 1.5 to 2 MOA rifle out of the box. The National Match model probably shoots straighter than that, but I'm not sure. I've never shot one. I have two M1A's. The Scout Squad and the SOCOM CQB. I can tell you The Scout is a 1.5 to 2 MOA carbine out of the box. The best I've done with it was ringing a 15" gong consistantly from a rest shot after shot at 350yds witch is plenty satisfactory for me out of a Scout style carbine with an 18 or 18.5 incn barrel. My SOCOM is a CQB weapon with a non magnified optic so I dialed it in at 50 yrds and was ringing a 12" gong consistantly at 100yds witch was also plenty satisfactory for me out of a CQB carbine. However, Neither the Scout nor the SOCOM were designed for extreme or even long range shooting. You'd be better of with the M1A "Loaded" or "National Match" models for that with thier 22" match grade barrels. Once again this all just my opinion brother. Hope this helps. Shoot fun, Shoot safe and Shoot straight!
Solid info, thank you
 
Thanks everyone, I guess I bought the wrong gun. I know it's a battle axe but I was looking for a little more precision. If the gun is a 2 MOA then I'll be lucky to shoot a 3 to 3 1/2 or 4 MOA.
If you're looking for a long range precision platform. Look into a bolt gun. You can find many different makes and models at very affordable prices. The right model M1A can be a long range gun but your going to pay for it right out of the box and it's still probably going to take some after market parts and gunsmithing. Just my opinion bud.
 
If you're looking for a long range precision platform. Look into a bolt gun. You can find many different makes and models at very affordable prices. The right model M1A can be a long range gun but your going to pay for it right out of the box and it's still probably going to take some after market parts and gunsmithing. Just my opinion bud.
I'm left handed, bolts aren't appealing but thank you
 
Thanks everyone, I guess I bought the wrong gun. I know it's a battle axe but I was looking for a little more precision. If the gun is a 2 MOA then I'll be lucky to shoot a 3 to 3 1/2 or 4 MOA.
What are you looking to do ?
Precise Competition shooting

Unless one is a competitor on the circuit or a SWAT sniper, 1”-2” isnt that big of a deal in the grand scheme.
 
What are you looking to do ?
Precise Competition shooting

Unless one is a competitor on the circuit or a SWAT sniper, 1”-2” isnt that big of a deal in the grand scheme.
I think KillerFord is right. A 2 MOA rifle is a very capable firearm. They make left handed bolt guns too, but if you're set on a specific action or platform I totally understand that also. Hope you find what you're looking for. Shoot fun, shoot safe and shoot straight!
 
What are you looking to do ?
Precise Competition shooting

Unless one is a competitor on the circuit or a SWAT sniper, 1”-2” isnt that big of a deal in the grand scheme.
Exactly.
1-2 or 3-4 MOA is still center mass and even when the Zombies attack the average head is big enough within those parameters. The only difference worthy of discussing is the length of the barrel for CQ defense since we all know Zombies move fast and roam in packs and can be in your face quickly. 😬😁😎😂
 
I'm left handed, bolts aren't appealing but thank you
Donnie, you may not like bolts (either right or left), in general, but I figured I'd post the video below which shows Ryan Gresham with a Savage straight pull bolt rifle, that can be set up as either bolt on right, or bolt on left. Since he's a lefty, he set it up on the left. It's a short video (approximatly 2:35, add it looks like that Savage has a nice trigger too). Just showing their are options in bolt rifles, or maybe just going with another AR10 style semi auto rifle might work for you.

 

Donnie, you may not like bolts (either right or left), in general, but I figured I'd post the video below which shows Ryan Gresham with a Savage straight pull bolt rifle, that can be set up as either bolt on right, or bolt on left. Since he's a lefty, he set it up on the left. It's a short video (approximatly 2:35, add it looks like that Savage has a nice trigger too). Just showing their are options in bolt rifles, or maybe just going with another AR10 style semi auto rifle might work for you.

I love Savage bolt guns! You can't do better for the price in my opinion. I have two of them and the optics mounted on them cost as much or more that the rifles them selves! They shoot super straight too! Both were and are Sub MOA out of the box, and that's no s**t!!! Shoot fun, shoot safe and shoot straight!
 
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