Alabama Church Shooting

[HayesGreener]

I proposed and organized an armed security team in my church. The team was made up of almost all active/retired police and retired military. During church events, if we did not recognize someone, 2 of us would intercept the new face, greet him/her politely and ask if we could be of help. One security member would stand in front and the other on the side observing the body language and looking for weapons with OC at the ready. If something did not smell right, we asked the person to leave.

Good for you! I have a two-day program for church security teams-the first day is basic on the law, gear, and safe gun handling and a basic qualification course of fire. The second day is 8 hours on the range and 350-400 rounds. We do many scenarios, but the emphasis is on precision marksmanship. It is important that everyone carrying a firearm in these teams know their capabilities and limitations. The majority cannot make those precision shots under time, and they need to know what they are capable of. Continuing training is essential to build knowledge and retain skills, but the sad truth is, most will not be able to devote the time. I too have felt sadness that such training is needed for houses of worship, the one place where we should find sanctuary from the madness.

 

[Recusant]

Hayes, we're at the point one has to wonder when he or she leaves the house where are we really safe from the madness enveloping this country.

 

[Talyn]

Lovers quarrel?

 

[Keystone19250]

Hayes, we're at the point one has to wonder when he or she leaves the house where are we really safe from the madness enveloping this country.

Just recently there was a shooting in Louisville Kentucky at what is known as the big 4 bridge, a walking bridge over the Ohio River. The argument started over an electric scooter?? Really.
5 young people were shot, none killed.
The shooter the father of one of those shot, his 6 year old son.
Total madness over something so stupid.

Idiots with a gun and using that gun to cause pain and heartache when words or WALKING AWAY would have been prudent.

 

[BobT]

Good for you! I have a two-day program for church security teams-the first day is basic on the law, gear, and safe gun handling and a basic qualification course of fire. The second day is 8 hours on the range and 350-400 rounds. We do many scenarios, but the emphasis is on precision marksmanship. It is important that everyone carrying a firearm in these teams know their capabilities and limitations. The majority cannot make those precision shots under time, and they need to know what they are capable of. Continuing training is essential to build knowledge and retain skills, but the sad truth is, most will not be able to devote the time. I too have felt sadness that such training is needed for houses of worship, the one place where we should find sanctuary from the madness.

That training course sounds wonderful. One other thing I forgot to mention, I purchased two trauma kits for the church and the classrooms. They are the audio instruction kits that will talk a user through the triage and use of the kit supplies in both English and Spanish. We trained the team on how to use it but even someone not trained can follow the simple audio instructions. I also got a burn kit for the classroom kitchen. Both came from North American Rescue.

 

[somorris]

I proposed and organized an armed security team in my church. The team was made up of almost all active/retired police and retired military. During church events, if we did not recognize someone, 2 of us would intercept the new face, greet him/her politely and ask if we could be of help. One security member would stand in front and the other on the side observing the body language and looking for weapons with OC at the ready. If something did not smell right, we asked the person to leave.

We have a similar team at our church.

We have done about everything we can think of, including having our local PD come review our facilities and help us develop a plan. I am on the team, and frankly the responsibility sometimes weighs heavily on me. According to everything I have read, typical distances in self defense situations are under five yards, but in a church security situation, I think you need to be accurate out to around 25 yards, maybe more. I shoot at indoor ranges, and the max. distance available is 25 yards, so that is where I practice.

 

[HayesGreener]

We have a similar team at our church.

We have done about everything we can think of, including having our local PD come review our facilities and help us develop a plan. I am on the team, and frankly the responsibility sometimes weighs heavily on me. According to everything I have read, typical distances in self defense situations are under five yards, but in a church security situation, I think you need to be accurate out to around 25 yards, maybe more. I shoot at indoor ranges, and the max. distance available is 25 yards, so that is where I practice.

For such training my marksmanship standard test is consistent head shots at 10 yards, consistent center of mass hits at 25 with no misses.