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Ammo Check

Old_Me said:
yeah, i just went to the basement and checked my boxes, these were made in the USA. i didn't pay attention to country of manufacture, just the price.

as for if it is dirtier than any other brand..??

i clean my guns after every range visit, so dirty ammo is no issue for me.
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Hmmm, I've already shot my 200 rounds of ARMSCOR .45 ACP and threw away the boxes....
I don't remember any of the Ammo I've used in .45ACP showing signs of being particularly dirty or one more dirty than the other.....

My last 3 times out I had swithed from Lucas Oil and Grease to Wilson Combat Oil in my 1911's, I noticed the oil looking a little more dirty than the past, BUT, that might the oil and not the ammo.... ....I also shot in pretty cold temps below freezing, which congealed the oil somewhat and that might contribute to it looking a little dirty with carbon...
 
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So…

What’s the big deal about “dirty” ammo?

Do you clean the gun after you shoot it? If so…why does it matter how much powder residue it leaves? I’ve never had a single-session shoot with any ammo—including Ultramax reloads (which are FILTHY)—that didn’t wipe right off.

I don’t get why people think this is an actual issue.
 
RickAnderson said:
I have used S&B in 5.56mm for my AR, never had a problem with it, seemed to perform as well as my Federal, Lake City Surplus and Winchester ammo...

Federal .45ACP has the highest muzzle velocity of all the .45 ammo I have seen, if it is only a few pennies more than the ammo I'm looking at, I'll go with Federal. IIRC, S&B .45 ACP is one of the higher muzzle velocities.

Honestly, the only ammo I have every had a problem with, was Magtech 9mm, I had a few duds out of 200 rounds. At the same time, I just got a 10mm XD-M and the Magtech 10mm has the highest MV available, so I bought a 100 rounds of it, and shot about half of it with no issue so far.


I was looking at ARMSCOR ammo a few weeks ago on the ARMSCOR website, they have two versions of most models/calibers they offered, ARMSCOR Philippines and ARMSCOR USA. I took that to mean one was made in the Philippines and imported, the other made in the USA under the ARMSCOR name.

I don't know that for a fact, I just got that distinct impression based off the naming and descriptions on the website. The packaging was slightly different. Philippines was mostly gold packaging, while USA was mostly black packaging.

I have shot ARMSCOR .45ACP, in the mostly gold packaging, which I "believe" may be Philippines made imported. The bullet metal jacket was brass in appearance. I've had multiple people say Brass jacketed bullets are not problem (brass is an alloy of Copper and zinc), they will not wear the barrel faster like soft steel bi-metal bullets. Its MV is on the low side, I think it was the old standard 830 FPS, but perfectly reliable.
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The ARMSCOR Philippines ammo is typically mil-spec FMJ ammo whereas ARMSCOR USA is the sporting-type ammo.

The ARMSCOR USA facility is a few miles away & they have a nice retail outlet.
 
HansGruber said:
So…

What’s the big deal about “dirty” ammo?

Do you clean the gun after you shoot it? If so…why does it matter how much powder residue it leaves? I’ve never had a single-session shoot with any ammo—including Ultramax reloads (which are FILTHY)—that didn’t wipe right off.

I don’t get why people think this is an actual issue.
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I have a S&W 625 that when reloading I used Unique for my reloads. I would fire several hundred rounds in a session and had to always have a toothbrush to clean under the moon clips and the ejector. I switched to Winchester 231 and eliminated that problem. It is my understanding that M-16s when first issued had problems when a government genius changed the type of powder different from what it was designed to use. So that is just a couple reasons I think dirty ammo makes a difference.
 
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