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anyone here get Dillons Blue Press magazine.??

ECS686 said:
And while year things can break anytime, The main issue with parts is replace when the factory recommends instead of waiting for trouble and you will have very minimal issues. Major parts on your car are replaced every so many miles and others are inspected or should be at each oil change for signs of wear a firearm is the same way
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i have yet to read in any gun owners manual, as to when and what parts to change out at whatever intervals is recommended.

to me, if the factory recommends somethings..??

it ought to be in the owners manuals..just like our vehicles owners manuals cleary state.

why should i or anyone else do a search on that, on the web, rather than read it in the manual, that comes with the gun.??
 
Old_Me said:
i have yet to read in any gun owners manual, as to when and what parts to change out at whatever intervals is recommended.

to me, if the factory recommends somethings..??

it ought to be in the owners manuals..just like our vehicles owners manuals cleary state.

why should i or anyone else do a search on that, on the web, rather than read it in the manual, that comes with the gun.??
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Everyone can do what they want. But if they don’t do proper care or break in they sort of probably shouldn’t complain about premature parts breakage.

and I say this as someone that fixed a lot of folks screw ups with firearms in a majors gun store/range for a few years in my retirement gig.

For example Shadow systems products which are made off the Glock Gen 3 warn everyone their guns require a 200 round break in period.. (shadow systems are phenomenal guns and have the grip angles Glock should have made) Yet people bring them in with half a box through it and complain it’s broke. I can’t fix things like that!
 
ECS686 said:
Everyone can do what they want. But if they don’t do proper care or break in they sort of probably shouldn’t complain about premature parts breakage.

and I say this as someone that fixed a lot of folks screw ups with firearms in a majors gun store/range for a few years in my retirement gig.

For example Shadow systems products which are made off the Glock Gen 3 warn everyone their guns require a 200 round break in period.. (shadow systems are phenomenal guns and have the grip angles Glock should have made) Yet people bring them in with half a box through it and complain it’s broke. I can’t fix things like that!
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THAT is at least one thing i do see/read in a few owners manuals, the "break in period"..(many others had no break in period)

at least i read the owners manuals, even when i get a new car.

but too many times, some people ignore the book. (maybe cuz they know it all..??)

as well as oil and/or grease recommendations. (and what NOT to use)

but no, if some wish to not adhere to the factory recommended break in period, then you most certainly cannot fix that.

other than to inform them to "read the book"

still however, for what IS in the owners manuals.??

i have never seen or read any parts replacement intervals.

usually only the recommendation to take it to a competent gunsmith to examine it.

and for the record, i have never heard of Glocks having trigger spring issues, till this thread, or reading that article.
 
Old_Me said:
THAT is at least one thing i do see/read in a few owners manuals, the "break in period"..(many others had no break in period)

at least i read the owners manuals, even when i get a new car.

but too many times, some people ignore the book. (maybe cuz they know it all..??)

as well as oil and/or grease recommendations. (and what NOT to use)

but no, if some wish to not adhere to the factory recommended break in period, then you most certainly cannot fix that.

other than to inform them to "read the book"

still however, for what IS in the owners manuals.??

i have never seen or read any parts replacement intervals.

usually only the recommendation to take it to a competent gunsmith to examine it.

and for the record, i have never heard of Glocks having trigger spring issues, till this thread, or reading that article.
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The trigger spring issues is more an item for folks that shoot a lot say a competitive shooter or agency guns or more those staff that shoot their guns say monthly SWAT guys or special teams. And if your agency or gun store has designed trainjng/rental guns that have a lot of rounds.

But if your that couple times a year shooter you might want to replace or at least have it inspected whenever you think the 10,000 round mark and with Glocks you can’t swing a dead cat without hitting someone that’s a Glock Armorer.

Those of us that have been involved in training whether agency specialty or doing a 1,000 round weekend Glock course or Gunsight course will see someone in a class have something pop up. And it’s usually he folks that have a lot of rounds or aftermarket junk on it the gun store guy swore by.

As far as Glock specifically the change out matrix might only be an armorer thing in that book now I think about it but the manual should state about the recoil spring. I’ve been through their armorer course so many times things blend together.

The good thing is the chance of a gun part failing for a random CCw carrier is pretty low like less chance than winning a lottery or struck by lighting IF you don’t 1 treat your gun like some keep their lawn mower. 2 don’t use reloaded or cheap ammo (not knocking anyone’s reloading but that will choke a gun up) and 3 Stay away from non OEM parts those are what I have seen choke up any gun quicker than anything. It might not show up in a 50 round range trip but shoot a 200 round match or go to a training class where you shoot 600-1,000 rounds rapidly in 2-4 days and you’ll see it somewhere.

Basically just an awareness issue
 
Old_Me said:
and for the record, i have never heard of Glocks having trigger spring issues, till this thread, or reading that article.
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The Glock trigger spring issue has always been around, even before I became an armor at my sheriff dept, it was a known possible issue, it’s not a big thing like some are letting on, most don’t break, some do, it happens.
 
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Most agencies of any size have armorers who do periodic inspections of agency guns at certain intervals and replace certain parts on a schedule. I am a certified armorer for several brands, and most manufacturers recommend replacing recoil springs at 5k rounds. The trigger spring issue is mostly a Glock issue. The problem arises for agencies that don't have an inspection program, or for private owners. For those shooting high volumes in matches, they know. But the fact is, most civilian users will not shoot to the parts replacement limit in a lifetime. Now if I were to buy a used gun to use and carry, I would go through it and replace all the springs and beakable stuff, because of the Southeast Asian Bargirl principle. (I have no idea where it has been or how much it has been used.)
 
Annihilator said:
The Glock trigger spring issue has always been around, even before I became an armor at my sheriff dept, it was a known possible issue, it’s not a big thing like some are letting on, most don’t break, some do, it happens.
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well you see, that's the thing, i only been at this sport/hobby since january of 2020, so i have no back knowledge of the spring breaking issue, at whatever round count, or heavy usage of a Glock.

most of you at least on this website, and i am sure of any Glock specific website, that have been hunting, target shooting, or in LEO, for decades would know this.

it cannot ever be assumed that we all know this, so when i read that article, it got me to thinking about that "dry firing debate", and things causing damage, and why it's just not a good idea to dry fire, unless one is using snap caps.

you gotta "see" where i am coming from as well.

i am not admonishing anyone, i am just making it clear, that not everyone is familiar with the spring issue.
 
Old_Me said:
well you see, that's the thing, i only been at this sport/hobby since january of 2020, so i have no back knowledge of the spring breaking issue, at whatever round count, or heavy usage of a Glock.

most of you at least on this website, and i am sure of any Glock specific website, that have been hunting, target shooting, or in LEO, for decades would know this.

it cannot ever be assumed that we all know this, so when i read that article, it got me to thinking about that "dry firing debate", and things causing damage, and why it's just not a good idea to dry fire, unless one is using snap caps.

you gotta "see" where i am coming from as well.

i am not admonishing anyone, i am just making it clear, that not everyone is familiar with the spring issue.
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Understand completely, I was making a reply that’s all, yea, that spring issue has never been an internet news flash like other stuff you read.
 
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