you see that's what i seem to recall, but in bits and pieces...“War is cruelty. There’s no use trying to reform it, the crueler it is the sooner it will be over.”
– William Tecumseh Sherman
POO HAPPENS!
Not condoning what happened, but William Cally was the fall guy. Rest In peace Lt. God bless you and keep you.
The residue of My Lai is still felt today, to the point where our soldiers have their hands tied behind their backs by Lawyers, Politicians, Nervous Nellies and hand wringers like Colin Powell. Don't send my sons and now grandsons into harm's way, not allowing them to defend themselves, and then after 6,8,10, years of spilled blood, then say "oh never mind" and accomplish NOTHING!
JMHO. I don't give a flying rats tail what happens to them as long as ours come home, and from what I see no one gives a about us/US. Don't expect it in return.
I was taught by some the best: SF, Rangers, Armor, Artillery who had multiple tours in VN and who were not hand wringers when it came to fighting a war. Yet, they wouldn't rely on "poo happens" when you took civilians and lined them up next to a ditch and let it rip. The Americal division was a conglomeration of units, some of which were marginal in terms of proficiency and leadership. The order of "take care of 'em" means what, exactly? And that's how weak command climate gets us to this point. Calley was punished rightly, but his chain of command should have been put on the docket, too. Shake and bake leadership is no way to fight a war.“War is cruelty. There’s no use trying to reform it, the crueler it is the sooner it will be over.”
– William Tecumseh Sherman
POO HAPPENS!
Not condoning what happened, but William Cally was the fall guy. Rest In peace Lt. God bless you and keep you.
The residue of My Lai is still felt today, to the point where our soldiers have their hands tied behind their backs by Lawyers, Politicians, Nervous Nellies and hand wringers like Colin Powell. Don't send my sons and now grandsons into harm's way, not allowing them to defend themselves, and then after 6,8,10, years of spilled blood, then say "oh never mind" and accomplish NOTHING!
JMHO. I don't give a flying rats tail what happens to them as long as ours come home, and from what I see no one gives a about us/US. Don't expect it in return.
Try rereading my post. I was talking about the current politicians, brownnosers, and yes men in uniform that are running the show. When I was in more than a few E-5s and most all E-6s and up where Vietnam Vets. I most certainly was NOT referring to them. A fair number of them got RIFed for one reason or another so some "how high" sob could move up. Good men that had served their country got shoved out with nothing a few years before retirement. Thanks, from a grateful nation, or at least the DOD.I was taught by some the best: SF, Rangers, Armor, Artillery who had multiple tours in VN and who were not hand wringers when it came to fighting a war. Yet, they wouldn't rely on "poo happens" when you took civilians and lined them up next to a ditch and let it rip. The Americal division was a conglomeration of units, some of which were marginal in terms of proficiency and leadership. The order of "take care of 'em" means what, exactly? And that's how weak command climate gets us to this point. Calley was punished rightly, but his chain of command should have been put on the docket, too. Shake and bake leadership is no way to fight a war.
Had a friend that was in same battalion as Calley in the Americal division.William Calley, convicted over the My Lai massacre in Vietnam, dies aged 80
i really do not recall ALL the actors involved, starting from his superiors.
Have to be honest I had no affection for the Vietnamese. Still there is no way what happened at My Lai could be justified.I was taught by some the best: SF, Rangers, Armor, Artillery who had multiple tours in VN and who were not hand wringers when it came to fighting a war. Yet, they wouldn't rely on "poo happens" when you took civilians and lined them up next to a ditch and let it rip. The Americal division was a conglomeration of units, some of which were marginal in terms of proficiency and leadership. The order of "take care of 'em" means what, exactly? And that's how weak command climate gets us to this point. Calley was punished rightly, but his chain of command should have been put on the docket, too. Shake and bake leadership is no way to fight a war.