SaltyMonkey
Professional
In NC yes. You would think a hurricane is coming.
Are you seeing gas lines in your area?
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the obsrver
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Ok, close enough. I sometimes have to wait to give my thoughts on things until people ask and I am counting this as close enough.
First off the government is full of it if you have not noticed. They get the left all worked up and excited about getting off fossil fuels and blah blah blah, working them up and getting them excited and they have no intention of doing so. They get the people all worked up and use things like the high speed rail project in California to bleed off millions upon millions upon millions. That project is a cluster ****. 5 min of research shows you that.
You realize that the middle east has nothing. No exports. They can not produce enough food to support themselves. They currently import 35 billion in food and that is expected to double in the next 10-20 years.
If the world stops using oil in mass like it does now, they will starve. Everyone in positions of power know this, which is why playing games with Trump over oil prices did not work and why Biden shut down the keystone pipeline and is acting the fool with anything to do with the energy in the US.
SO, all of this is BS. The picture is much larger than they want people to know.
This is also why they are trying to relocate people and fill the ark to capacity, so to speak. It is why the US is the biggest taker of immigrants under the UN. Because we can support more than most other countries.
This is why Obamas wife urged people to learn how to grow gardens and pass that knowledge down.
This is why we use all their oil first instead of tapping our own.
Because things are going to get pretty bumpy and there will probably be a war in there somewhere because people do those kinds of things when they are scared and hungry.
You think last year was weird? I live in an area that produces food. Lots of food. The humidity level in the spring when it is the wettest, has hardly broken 50% more than a couple times. Right now would be the time of year when you can canoe even the smallest streams, because the water level is up. Yet I would have to drive a long way right now to canoe any river. I fully expect this year will be the year that those at the top start to panic. Maybe they will rethink how many immigrants we can support. That maybe they will realize that they do not run barter town.
First off the government is full of it if you have not noticed. They get the left all worked up and excited about getting off fossil fuels and blah blah blah, working them up and getting them excited and they have no intention of doing so. They get the people all worked up and use things like the high speed rail project in California to bleed off millions upon millions upon millions. That project is a cluster ****. 5 min of research shows you that.
You realize that the middle east has nothing. No exports. They can not produce enough food to support themselves. They currently import 35 billion in food and that is expected to double in the next 10-20 years.
If the world stops using oil in mass like it does now, they will starve. Everyone in positions of power know this, which is why playing games with Trump over oil prices did not work and why Biden shut down the keystone pipeline and is acting the fool with anything to do with the energy in the US.
SO, all of this is BS. The picture is much larger than they want people to know.
This is also why they are trying to relocate people and fill the ark to capacity, so to speak. It is why the US is the biggest taker of immigrants under the UN. Because we can support more than most other countries.
This is why Obamas wife urged people to learn how to grow gardens and pass that knowledge down.
This is why we use all their oil first instead of tapping our own.
Because things are going to get pretty bumpy and there will probably be a war in there somewhere because people do those kinds of things when they are scared and hungry.
You think last year was weird? I live in an area that produces food. Lots of food. The humidity level in the spring when it is the wettest, has hardly broken 50% more than a couple times. Right now would be the time of year when you can canoe even the smallest streams, because the water level is up. Yet I would have to drive a long way right now to canoe any river. I fully expect this year will be the year that those at the top start to panic. Maybe they will rethink how many immigrants we can support. That maybe they will realize that they do not run barter town.
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I think one of the bigger issues is there are just way too many people on the Earth. Too many people means not enough resources. We can't sustain our numbers or the way we live. Eventually we'll run out of fresh water and fuel, the pandemics will get more frequent and more deadly, and our population will correct. Humans across the board are really bad at looking at the future so we do idiot things now. It's already catching up to us. More frequent disease outbreaks, climate change, etc. We could be smarter but that's no fun and its not easy so we ignore what's coming.
the obsrver
Master Class
It does not matter to me, I am but an observer. I tend to not get to excited about a lot of things and I really do not have an opinion on a bunch of stuff. It is what it is so to speak. I think it is a dream that is very far into the future though. I think that the country that produces the most food in the world is going to need fossil fuels to do so and the rest of the world will go without fuel before the US does, unless they want to starve.
What I am saying is remember when they did all the "what if the oil dried up in the middle east" scenario's some years back? Well it did not take them long to realize that a very large portion of the worlds population can not feed itself and that number was getting worse. That if the oil in the middle east dried up, that number of people that can not feed itself would skyrocket without that export. Then came the climate change talks and they added that into the figures. That was about the time the UN started a mass relocating project from countries that can not feed themselves to countries that can.
When they first started to realize there was a problem, they thought, well we will just give them jobs. Spread the money around. But they did not see and that did not change the fact that many countries were going to need to import more and more food each year. We shipped jobs out at a pace that we could not keep up with. I mean look, you can not even call customer service without talking to some 3rd world country now. So that plan failed and hurt us in the process. (Trump getting out of dumb trade deals made back then)
Now what happens if for any reason at all the US can not produce as much food as it normally can, when half or more of the worlds population depends on it?
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Maybe it is better to just be fat, dumb and happy! 
It seems to me that at the federal level, folks try to manipulate the masses to achieve their goals, whatever they are, and the "officials" are often not entirely honest with folks. My Dad told me many years ago to not believe anything I hear and only about half what I see. And, that was before the internet and all the questionable information we see these days. Even pictures can be altered and only an expert could tell for sure.
It seems to me that at the federal level, folks try to manipulate the masses to achieve their goals, whatever they are, and the "officials" are often not entirely honest with folks. My Dad told me many years ago to not believe anything I hear and only about half what I see. And, that was before the internet and all the questionable information we see these days. Even pictures can be altered and only an expert could tell for sure.
ghosttwofive
Custom
Nothing in my area of Arkansas yet.
the obsrver
Master Class
Ignorance is bliss, is what they say.Maybe it is better to just be fat, dumb and happy!
It seems to me that at the federal level, folks try to manipulate the masses to achieve their goals, whatever they are, and the "officials" are often not entirely honest with folks. My Dad told me many years ago to not believe anything I hear and only about half what I see. And, that was before the internet and all the questionable information we see these days. Even pictures can be altered and only an expert could tell for sure.
Yeah we do not have gas problems here either. Except for I do not like the price.
I guess my point about my post above is. now you can see why a lot of things are happening. From immigration, to infiltrating the government, to the money grab going on, to oil.
the obsrver
Master Class
Almost everyone would choose exactly the same way. It is natural.
But now you see why they keep people in the dark. I am not a cold person. Fact I probably care to much. But I agree with you. America first. Because when you really think about it, it has to be. It is the largest food producer in the world. If you value eating, America must come first. It is not selfish, It is not racist. It is a fact that if America does not come first, over half the world will go into starvation of some degree.
You know something else I have noticed is every little place has been adding large grain bins for storage the last 5 years or so. Now that could just be a profit driven thing, but it seems odd that almost every place I see is doing it.
Gates supposedly bought a bunch of land. He is trying to make meat in a cup.
But Gates does not understand that he does not run barter town and land is only good if you can grow things on it. If the rain, wind, sun and everything is just right. I do not believe they can control the weather, because if they could, we would not be talking about climate change now would we?
Gates needs to stay out of the food production as do all elite, or **** is really going to hit the fan.
Remember the swine flu? The bird flu? When you put to many eggs in one basket, bad things happen and that is what happens when big business gets involved with food production.
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KillerFord1977
SAINT
N texas is fine but prices crept up .15-.20 cents a gallon
There are too many in areas that cannot support them. In Europe and North America the fertility rates are below maintaining the population at 1.6 and respectively 1.8 (below 2 children per female).
Meanwhile in Africa is 4.1 and whooping 6.8 children per woman in Afghanistan . That's why they emigrate. Like locusts when the host land is depleted.
Continents Of The World By Total Fertility Rates
Africa has the highest total fertility rate among the world's continents.
www.worldatlas.com
Here Sams still has regular at $2.599/gallon. But huge lines. Everywhere else is $0.20-0.30 extra.
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Annihilator
Emissary
Ok, this needs to stay on topic and not get political, you know what will happen if this thread gets out of hand, this is a good thread and information for the gas situation now.
Phoenex
Alpha
I just filled up and while the gas station was a bit busier than normal I didn't experience any lines or delay. I'm in the Lake Norman area NW of Charlotte and was expecting some lines after Cooper declared a state of emergency.Just saw this:
North Carolina declares state of emergency over Colonial Pipeline outage
North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper on Monday declared a state of emergency over the temporary outage of the Colonial Pipeline caused by a cybersecurity attack.www.foxbusiness.com
Lock n' Load
Custom
No problems here in PA yet except that our state government is looking at doing away with gas taxes and instituting mileage taxes because they're not getting the revenue they want from gas.
Effects? Why, the good, bad of it? Many people do not read, see or watch news anymore? Word of mouth takes time, especially when many people are confined or off work due to virus concerns? Also, in some areas people only drive for necessities so fuel concerns and effects may vary?
the obsrver
Master Class
$2,80 here.
