Hammer67
Professional
Agreed. Time to put this BS to bed. My understanding is the appeal will be ruled on by the 5th Circuit, right?
ATF Pistol Brace Ban Struck Down in Federal Court
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Agreed. Time to put this BS to bed. My understanding is the appeal will be ruled on by the 5th Circuit, right?
randywallace
Alpha
Correct, then on to the SCOTUS potentially.
Hammer67
Professional
Good. Then since it was the 5th that struck it down to begin with, hopefully they will do it again and more definitively this time.
dadoser
Master Class
That's my thought. If/when this current rule is overturned (based on APA), ATF will just do a new rule. In the end, I do think the barrel limits (defined by congress in NFA 1934) will have to be overturned/nullified in order for brace pistols to not be NFA items. Just my opinion based on history and the courts regarding 2A - hope I'm wrong. (But I'd love to see the barrel limits and suppressors no longer be NFA items at the least.)
uspatriot1960
Custom
I believe I heard that the ATF filed an appeal to the ruling, but nothing else.
Hammer67
Professional
Yeah, that's the last I heard as well. I believe the ruling from the 5th Circuit is still in place in the meantime though, but need to confirm.
uspatriot1960
Custom
I believe so as well.
randywallace
Alpha
Mock, Britto and a couple others were consolidated. Briefing schedule to come.
https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fi...30-2_Order_Consolidating_Cases.pdf?1703268312
https://assets.nationbuilder.com/fi...30-2_Order_Consolidating_Cases.pdf?1703268312
Bassbob
Emissary
It didn't take that for me. I put a brace on for about 5 minutes and got rid of it.
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Sure ya could. So much fun to build as well as shoot. I just purchassed a Genisis Arms GEN 12 7" Breacher. It has a recipricating barrel that reduces recoil a ton. The breacher is not attached to the barrel, it has its own frame. Barrel set in about 1.75 inches. I waited 8 months to get this gem.
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Anyone have an update on the coming court battle? Court date?I have three SBR's in the ATF prison submitted during the free SBR time frame. I was told they are on indefinate hold until settled in court. The injuction was in force. They have been locked up since July 2023. Called them twice and they won't tell me anything saying they have no instruction on how to procede. I asked if I could pay for the tax stamps and they still had no answer.
randywallace
Alpha
Mock v. Garland and the other consolidated cases are still in briefing at the Fifth Circuit. https://www.firearmspolicy.org/mock
More than likely, it will be scheduled for oral argument within a few months and then a decision to follow.
UC_Guy 1971
Elite
Going on a long road trip. What is the current status of braces? Am I good?
Talyn
SAINT
When you're traveling always check what the laws are for the areas you're traveling through since they vary from state to state across the country, regardless if it's the brace issue.
My .02