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Beautiful machine but way too rich for my blood.

It would be really helpful if you guys on the forum started a Go-fund me so I can buy one that would be awesome....🤣🤣🤣
 
I see 10mm picked out his new ride......
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I have never owned an ATV either, but my Dad bought a Polaris and used it several years before he died. The Polaris made it possible for him to continue deer hunting. I camped/hunted with him in November 2002 before he died in January 2003. He had experienced a couple of strokes which hindered his walking. I rode his Polaris quite a bit and agree Polaris makes a nice ATV. I would definitely be looking at them.
 
Peglegjoe said:
I'd look at Polaris.

I sold ATVs for years - Honda, Kawi, Yamaha, Suzuki, and Polaris. The Sportsman series ALWAYS had the best handling, hands down, of any machine out there. We'd do entire days in the forests, with a fleet from all manufacturers, and either they'd beat you up, or the steering geometry was wonky and they would dive left or right if you so much as twitched on the bars, or the seats sucked, or you'd get covered in mud and debris. The Sportsmans kept us relatively clean, the steering was dead-on, their EPS was head and shoulders above the rest for ease of use and assist level (speed sensitive - faster speed = less assist), they have an available engine braking setting (and on the Utility models, there's a max speed setting if you're spreading seed or doing other farm tasks that require stable speeds), and the suspension simply soaked up the bumps and ruts and rocks like you were riding on marshmallows. And, they put some sort of magic...SOMEthing in their seats that was awesome. The 450 is a great bargain price unit with the same great features as the big boys; 570 is one of the most popular ones out there; the 850 and 1000 are the answers to "how much power is too much?". And, their AWD system kicks in with 1/16 of a wheel rotation - you never wonder "is that 4x4 gonna kick in soon?", it just...does. Seamless.

RIDE THEM FIRST.

Don't buy price. You have to ride them. Steer them. Feel the seats. Feel the throttle response. Look at the accessories and options. Ride with and without EPS. Ride with AWD, and with shift-able 2wd/4wd.

For my money, if I needed one, I'd go Polaris. No question. And, they weren't in our shop any more frequently than any of the other brands - reliability is up there and I wouldn't hesitate to put one to work on a regular basis, as well as go out and rip-n-tear for fun.
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What do you think of the power steering option is it worth the money?
 
I went to a few dealerships today to check out different brands and get my hands on a machine. I checked out Honda, Artic cat, & Suzuki.

I will check out the Polaris dealer this weekend and just seeing what they offer compared to other brands I'm definitely favoring them right now.

I talked to a salesman at the Suzuki dealership about cost out the door and he told me they charge the destination fee of roughly $400 plus the uncrating and setup fee of roughly $600 and almost $200 in doc fees.

This definitely seems like there's a lot of hidden cost here is this normal?

The setup fee seems like it's 100% dealer markup.
 
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10mmLife said:
I went to a few dealerships today to check out different brands and get my hands on a machine. I checked out Honda, Artic cat, & Suzuki.

I will check out the Polaris dealer this weekend and just seeing what they offer compared to other brands I'm definitely favoring them right now.

I talked to a salesman at the Suzuki dealership about cost out the door and he told me they charge the destination fee of roughly $400 plus the uncrating and setup fee of roughly $600 and almost $200 in doc fees.

This definitely seems like there's a lot of hidden cost here is this normal?

The setup fee seems like it's 100% dealer markup.
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Wow, that certainly sounds like a rip off to me. When I would shop for cars or trucks. I'd buy the Edmunds, consumers guide and any other documentation that listed what the dealer paid for the vehicle. One thing that was written, was not to let them charge for destination or document fees as they were add on costs which was pure profit for the dealer (like the dealer listed option of "Paint sealant" that one sales guy told me was just wax job application. They wanted $1500 for that, and I refused it before we even started negotiating).
I never owned an ATV, but heck, I'd tell them for knocking off the $600, I'd come down with a crow bar and do the uncrating myself. 😂 :ROFLMAO:
 
10mmLife said:
I went to a few dealerships today to check out different brands and get my hands on a machine. I checked out Honda, Artic cat, & Suzuki.

I will check out the Polaris dealer this weekend and just seeing what they offer compared to other brands I'm definitely favoring them right now.

I talked to a salesman at the Suzuki dealership about cost out the door and he told me they charge the destination fee of roughly $400 plus the uncrating and setup fee of roughly $600 and almost $200 in doc fees.

This definitely seems like there's a lot of hidden cost here is this normal?

The setup fee seems like it's 100% dealer markup.
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Lots of hidden fees if they, “offer a discount off msrp” . Normal biz crap practice. Find a dealer that doesnt, and tell a dealer to F off if they try. If they want crate fees, tell them you want 2 years of unlimited service. Let them squirm on that offer for the crate fees.
 
Setup is a real thing with ATV's. They all arrive "some assembly required" - they aren't cars where the dealers pull white stickers off, and wash them. They actually have to finish BUILDING the ATV. On a good day, an "A" tech could uncrate and set up one of ours (pick a manufacturer, they're all similar in completion level on arrival) in about 3 hours. Side-by-sides took nearly a whole day. They are designed to fit X boxes wide by X boxes tall by X boxes long, into a 53' trailer for delivery. Whatever has to come off to fit in those boxes...comes off. The dealer has to put it all back together.

You can buy from someone who doesn't charge a setup fee if you want...but chances are you'll get an ATV that's set up by some lot-jockey instead of a trained technician. If the plan is to own and enjoy your ATV for a long time (years and years), why start off by trying to screw the dealership? Why not try and build a decent relationship with them? I never understood the "screw the dealer" attitude...from either side of the table (as an employee, or as a buyer). Don't be a dick. You'll go much further in life.

As for EPS - GET IT. Your arms and torso will thank you. Especially if you load weight on the nose, like a plow and/or a winch and/or a deer. It's the difference between an all-day workout (and sore muscles), versus just playing on the trail all day long. Polaris EPS also has a steering damper effect that none of the others do. When you're checking them out, if the salesman doesn't do it, have a buddy do this:

You sit on the ATV, hold the bars like you're riding, and have your buddy kick the front of a front tire - HARD - like it's bouncing off a rock on the trail. Feel the bars jerk when they do.

Then, turn the ignition key on. Don't start it, just key-on. Wait 5 seconds for everything to boot up. Then, hold the bars and have your buddy kick the tire again. HARD. You'll feel the difference. And picture that difference while you're bouncing down a rocky trail.
 
Peglegjoe said:
Setup is a real thing with ATV's. They all arrive "some assembly required" - they aren't cars where the dealers pull white stickers off, and wash them. They actually have to finish BUILDING the ATV. On a good day, an "A" tech could uncrate and set up one of ours (pick a manufacturer, they're all similar in completion level on arrival) in about 3 hours. Side-by-sides took nearly a whole day. They are designed to fit X boxes wide by X boxes tall by X boxes long, into a 53' trailer for delivery. Whatever has to come off to fit in those boxes...comes off. The dealer has to put it all back together.

You can buy from someone who doesn't charge a setup fee if you want...but chances are you'll get an ATV that's set up by some lot-jockey instead of a trained technician. If the plan is to own and enjoy your ATV for a long time (years and years), why start off by trying to screw the dealership? Why not try and build a decent relationship with them? I never understood the "screw the dealer" attitude...from either side of the table (as an employee, or as a buyer). Don't be a dick. You'll go much further in life.

As for EPS - GET IT. Your arms and torso will thank you. Especially if you load weight on the nose, like a plow and/or a winch and/or a deer. It's the difference between an all-day workout (and sore muscles), versus just playing on the trail all day long. Polaris EPS also has a steering damper effect that none of the others do. When you're checking them out, if the salesman doesn't do it, have a buddy do this:

You sit on the ATV, hold the bars like you're riding, and have your buddy kick the front of a front tire - HARD - like it's bouncing off a rock on the trail. Feel the bars jerk when they do.

Then, turn the ignition key on. Don't start it, just key-on. Wait 5 seconds for everything to boot up. Then, hold the bars and have your buddy kick the tire again. HARD. You'll feel the difference. And picture that difference while you're bouncing down a rocky trail.
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Wow man thanks for the advice!

Btw I just found a really great out the door price on a 2020 Can Am outlander utility 570 with the electronic steering for $6848 out the door pricing so I'm probably going to go with that.

I'm really interested in a Polaris 570 but there is zero inventory within 100 miles of me currently.
 
All I can say is, ride them first.

If you can find a Polaris 450, it's damn near the same as a 570. Identical sizing, handling, EPS, and only a small percentage of power difference (and nearly identical torque). For much less money.
 
Peglegjoe said:
All I can say is, ride them first.

If you can find a Polaris 450, it's damn near the same as a 570. Identical sizing, handling, EPS, and only a small percentage of power difference (and nearly identical torque). For much less money.
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The dealer actually just called me up to tell me that he has a Polaris 570 EPS coming in that has a decent amount of options for a few hundred more so I'll need to check out both side by side. I'm heading there tomorrow.

I was looking at the 450EPS also because they do seem to offer a lot for the price point.
 
Annihilator said:
Secret pic of 10mm and his new ATV at the ball game.......

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I think that's a video of his "Polaris" test drive. The dealer is rethinking their sales agreement and may rescind it completely after his stunt here (why he dressed up like a 🤡 is anyone's guess. I would have loved to see the Polaris dealer's face when 10mm showed up dressed like that exclaiming "I'm ready for my test drive guys Bawk Bawk") 😂😂🤣🤣
 
Peglegjoe said:
Setup is a real thing with ATV's. They all arrive "some assembly required" - they aren't cars where the dealers pull white stickers off, and wash them. They actually have to finish BUILDING the ATV. On a good day, an "A" tech could uncrate and set up one of ours (pick a manufacturer, they're all similar in completion level on arrival) in about 3 hours. Side-by-sides took nearly a whole day. They are designed to fit X boxes wide by X boxes tall by X boxes long, into a 53' trailer for delivery. Whatever has to come off to fit in those boxes...comes off. The dealer has to put it all back together.

You can buy from someone who doesn't charge a setup fee if you want...but chances are you'll get an ATV that's set up by some lot-jockey instead of a trained technician. If the plan is to own and enjoy your ATV for a long time (years and years), why start off by trying to screw the dealership? Why not try and build a decent relationship with them? I never understood the "screw the dealer" attitude...from either side of the table (as an employee, or as a buyer). Don't be a dick. You'll go much further in life.

As for EPS - GET IT. Your arms and torso will thank you. Especially if you load weight on the nose, like a plow and/or a winch and/or a deer. It's the difference between an all-day workout (and sore muscles), versus just playing on the trail all day long. Polaris EPS also has a steering damper effect that none of the others do. When you're checking them out, if the salesman doesn't do it, have a buddy do this:

You sit on the ATV, hold the bars like you're riding, and have your buddy kick the front of a front tire - HARD - like it's bouncing off a rock on the trail. Feel the bars jerk when they do.

Then, turn the ignition key on. Don't start it, just key-on. Wait 5 seconds for everything to boot up. Then, hold the bars and have your buddy kick the tire again. HARD. You'll feel the difference. And picture that difference while you're bouncing down a rocky trail.
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Every dealer I checked in N texas took the $400-500 off the final price of the atv when I told them I wouldnt buy with it on there and paying cash.
 
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